when flying furthest distance from airport?

Yes, but there is NOTHING in between Hawaii and the west coast of the US. Not a single place to put down even a single-engine airplane, much less an airliner. Call it a 340-minute trip, and at the midway (Equal Time) point you are 170 minutes from the nearest airport - not 207 minutes, but getting close to it (and only 10 minutes away from the ETOPS rule prior to the 777).

There are several places in the mid and north Pacific that can be used as emergency divert fields, and thus a trip from Hawaii to Guam might never have you more than 130 minutes from a suitable airfield. (WAG on my part - haven’t flown across the Pacific in several years).

Several factors are considered when airlines design their long-haul routes, and emergency divert fields are definitely high on the list. As 1920s Style “Death Ray” pointed out the ETOPS rules restrict twin-engine airplanes, and for Pacific or Polar routes they may fly non-great-circle routes in order to stay “close” to divert airfields. It may add a couple of hundred miles to the overall flight distance but it keeps a viable alternate available.

Go to that Great Circle site that Rick linked to and type in LHR-NRT (London Heathrow to Narita, Tokyo). Not exactly what you might expect. For an even more dramatic one, American Airlines flies from Chicago O’Hare to Delhi, India. (ORD-DEL). The route goes very near the North Pole, but AA flies this route with a 777 (a twin-engined aircraft) so the actual route takes some zigs and zags to keep an airport within 207 minutes at all times.

Aircraft with more than 2 engines (MD-11, 747, A340) can ignore the ETOPS rules and just fly great circle routes optimized for wind. Still, you’d be hard pressed to find a route that gets you much more than 240 minutes away from an airport unless you start constructing make-believe routes (such as flights to and from McMurdo Station in Antarctica). The one from Sydney to anywhere in South America is a good one as well. Still, 240 minutes is 4 HOURS and while the ETOPS rules are designed to mitigate danger due to engine failure, other problems would leave you in a lot of trouble. A Swissair MD-11 was lost off the east coast of Canada after an electrical fire - the time from the first noticeable smoke until they went into the water was 11 minutes.

Back to the OP (or someone who mentioned it) - I never saw the episode of House but the EWR-SIN route is the longest scheduled airline route now, so that’s probably why they picked that flight. Normal scheduled time is somewhere around 18 hours to the US and almost 20 on the way back. Singapore Airlines uses an A340-500 (a 4-engined aircraft) on the route, so ETOPS rules are not a factor. The flight takes a Polar route, so they could be quite far from an airport, but (guess here) not much more than 240 minutes.

As an aside, if a passenger is sick and urgently in need of medical care a flight will normally divert (I’ve done it quite a few times). If a passenger dies, policy is to press on to the destination.

How about this? What point on earth is furthest from an airport that could handle a passenger jetliner?

I did a quick Great Circle route for Capetown to Perth and it looked very lonely. Does anyone fly that route? Does it actually go a differnt route than GC?

This Wiki article says 21 minutes. They were near Halifax, and indeed crashed quite close to land (had been over land minutes before the crash). Despite a fire on board, the flight crew decided to divert and dump fuel in preparation for landing. There was speculation that had they not taken this time, the plane would have been landable.

[hijack] i was booking some travel to Hawaii using frequent flier mileage so I got to speak with a US person, not someone from India. The conversation went something like this
me Hi I need to tickets LAX to Kona Hawaii on flight number 1234 on 12/24
Agent Yes sir that plane leaves at 8 AM and is a nonstop flight.
me I should feaking hope it is a nonstop flight.
Agent Why do you say that?
me Have you looked a map of what is between LA and Hawaii? Unless you guys are flying seaplanes, I will be very upset if that plane lands short of Hawaii
Agent click (she hung up on me)

Ahhh…21 minutes is probably more accurate. I was flipping through some old-fashioned paper recount of the accident and used the timeline from when they first declared a problem until when communication was lost.

Those guys were facing some pretty tough decisions, and they didn’t know that what they thought would help them (dumping fuel) would actually hurt them (by shutting off certain circulation fans that then allowed the fire to spread faster). That being said, a fire on board is (for me at least) a get it on the ground NOW situation, regardless of landing weight, weather or anything else between me and that piece of concrete.

Rick, she actually hung up on you? No sense of humor at all!

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Uhh… Don’t the majority of flights from L.A. to Hawai land at Oahu? So that it would be more common to go L.A. → Oahu → Kona, i.e. not non-stop.

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There are some direct flights to Maui. Not sure about the Big Island, but I don’t recall there being any. Could very well have changed, though. But yes, the vast majority go through Honolulu on Oahu.

I never flew United between Hawaii and the mainland, but I’m fairly certain my flights between there and LA topped 6 hours. Dunno, maybe headwinds?

But that’s right, West Coast to Hawaii, there ain’t nuttin’ anywhere down there. Nada.

I don’t know about any other airlines, but United flies direct from both LAX and SFO to Kona. 757s. I know, I have taken that flight. Cite
pilot 141 Yup she hung up on me. I called back and got the coolest agent ever, so it was a positive. The second agent had this to say about the first :eek: :rolleyes: :smiley:
Siam Sam I took the times right off of the United web site and corrected for the time zone changes. It is a 5 hour 37 minute flight + 3 hours for time zone changes. So if you left Honolulu at noon, you would land in LA at 8:37PM that night. Perhaps this is what you are remembering.

No, I wasn’t doubting you. I’m sure that is the scheduled time. But I’m sure the actual time I flew was just a bit longer, like 20 or 30 minutes, for whatever reason.

I didn’t see the episode, but this sounds to me like a reference to the movie Airplane!, where the entire crew ate the fish meal and all got deathly ill. The scene where last-remaining crew member, pilot Peter Graves, begins to exhibit all the symptoms that Dr. Leslie Nielsen describes as they come out of his mouth is a modern comedy gem.