# When Game of Thrones ends, I wish the showrunners focused on XYZ **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 28, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645 "2016-06-28T20:43:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/21 "2016-06-29T05:00:14Z")
Dunk and Egg have already been mentioned on the show. That would be fun. But that should be somebody else’s project, not Benioff and Weiss. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/22 "2016-06-29T13:57:45Z")
Since The Magicians was done, maybe they could do Dresden Files or Alex Verus. What I’d really like to see, though, is the first 3 Dies the Fire books adapted to a series. I think that would be pretty cool if they could pull it off. If it takes off then there are follow on books they could do (in fact, that series is still ongoing, I think, though I kind of lost interest in it after the 6th book). ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/23 "2016-06-29T14:04:30Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Since The Magicians was done, maybe they could do Dresden Files or Alex Verus. I think the Dresden Files would be a hard sell since it is already a failed series. Also at the time it was relatively unique but now the “What if vampires and werewolves and fairies were real and living in our world” trope has been done. That includes HBO’s own True Blood. ---
**Author:** ![JcWoman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jcwoman/32/2889_2.png) [@JcWoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JcWoman)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/24 "2016-06-29T14:14:13Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Zelazny mentioned - the **Chronicles of Amber** is also fun with big, multi-world politics and intrigue. There could be more time spent on Early and other shadow worlds. Agree with this and also Jacqueline Carey’s Kushiel’s Dart series. That was a complex, richly detailed world full of politics, sex and intrigue. I think HBO would be the only media organization who could do the BDSM aspects of it justice. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/25 "2016-06-29T14:37:30Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > This. > > HBO supposedly wants more Thrones stuff after the series ends. I’m willing to bet they pitch Aegon conquest series or something more intimate and related like adapting Dunk and Egg. Each Dunk and Egg story could easily be done in a single hour-long episode though… and there are what, 4 of them total? I’d LOVE prequel AGOT stuff… Aegon’s conquest perhaps, or maybe even earlier things, like the Andal invasion or something to do with the Valyrian Freehold and Aenar Targaryen’s move to Dragonstone before the Fall. I’d have said maybe that Weiss and Benioff could do a good job with James S.A. Corey’s Expanse novels, but they’re already in-flight with SyFy, and fairly well done, to boot. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/26 "2016-06-29T14:42:48Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I think the Dresden Files would be a hard sell since it is already a failed series. Also at the time it was relatively unique but now the “What if vampires and werewolves and fairies were real and living in our world” trope has been done. That includes HBO’s own True Blood. I didn’t know it was a failed series…that mean there won’t be any more books coming out? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/27 "2016-06-29T14:45:56Z")
> [@XT](#): > > I didn’t know it was a failed series…that mean there won’t be any more books coming out? ETA: Sorry, did you think I meant failed book series? If so I meant it was a failed TV series. I’m no TV executive but I would think that a property that has already failed on TV would be a hard sell as a big budget new series. The show was on in 2007. Half the books have come out after the show was cancelled. (12 episodes on SciFi) I think it was pretty well done on an obviously limited budget. They would have had a hard time dealing with the more elaborate elements of the later books. I will not be able to read a Dresden book without thinking of Paul Blackthorne as Harry. But I couldn’t understand blonde haired blue eyed Murphy being played by Valerie Cruz. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/28 "2016-06-29T14:52:31Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > ETA: Sorry, did you think I meant failed book series? If so I meant it was a failed TV series. I’m no TV executive but I would think that a property that has already failed on TV would be a hard sell as a big budget new series. > > The show was on in 2007. Half the books have come out after the show was cancelled. (12 episodes on SciFi) I think it was pretty well done on an obviously limited budget. They would have had a hard time dealing with the more elaborate elements of the later books. > > I will not be able to read a Dresden book without thinking of Paul Blackthorne as Harry. But I couldn’t understand blonde haired blue eyed Murphy being played by Valerie Cruz. Yeah, I thought you were talking about the book series. I didn’t know they had tried to do a TV series based on the books…must have totally missed it. :smack: Thanks for the clarification. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/29 "2016-06-29T15:27:18Z")
It will never happen but The Vorkosigan Saga would be my dream series, hard to do well (because some of the most of the interesting things are in the characters inner thoughts) but it would finally make everybody read the damn books (as happened with GoT) and I could finally talk about them with my friends and family. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/30 "2016-06-29T15:35:35Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > It will never happen but The Vorkosigan Saga would be my dream series, hard to do well (because some of the most of the interesting things are in the characters inner thoughts) but it would finally make everybody read the damn books (as happened with GoT) and I could finally talk about them with my friends and family. Unfortunately Peter Dinklage is way too old to play Miles. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/31 "2016-06-29T16:45:43Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Unfortunately Peter Dinklage is way too old to play Miles. Yep, At least until the last novels. But Tyrion’s popularity could be a selling point for a VK series “Imagine a show that’s only about a young Tyrion with a somewhat less fucked up family environment”… ---
**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/32 "2016-06-29T18:05:34Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > [Cthulhu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos) > In fact I was thinking how awesome it would be if The Drowned God was somehow tied to Lovecraft lore. I would love to see proper treatment given to all this, but I’m not sure I trust it to be done properly. A lot of the Cthulhu Mythos consists of standalone stories that rarely contradict each other outright, but don’t necessarily work together either. The Mythos was never really formalized and was very flexible as needed for each individual story. (You can see some discussion of this in the Wikipedia article that was linked to). The problem with this is that it necessitates one of two approaches by the people adapting it to film/TV: 1) anthology-style, where you tell one story at a time the way Lovecraft did, or 2) finish formulating the Mythos for yourself, which necessarily means making changes that half your audience will think is wrong. Personally, I lean toward an X-Files or Fringe interpretation. Your monster of the week episodes stand alone, and your mythos episodes advance the overall plot. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/33 "2016-06-30T02:20:15Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Each Dunk and Egg story could easily be done in a single hour-long episode though… and there are what, 4 of them total? > > I’d LOVE prequel AGOT stuff… Aegon’s conquest perhaps, or maybe even earlier things, like the Andal invasion or something to do with the Valyrian Freehold and Aenar Targaryen’s move to Dragonstone before the Fall. > > I’d have said maybe that Weiss and Benioff could do a good job with James S.A. Corey’s Expanse novels, but they’re already in-flight with SyFy, and fairly well done, to boot. Aegon’s conquest seems to simple and straight forward to make a good story. The Dance of Dragons on the other hand is perfectly GoTsy. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/34 "2016-06-30T02:36:11Z")
Somebody could take another shot at _The Dresden Files_ and I wouldn’t complain. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/35 "2016-06-30T15:41:07Z")
I would kind of like to see the _Belgariad_ on tv. It’s almost laughably simple compared to GoT, and I’ve always just found it so much fun to read. I wouldn’t mind seeing a more faithful Percy Jackson adaptation, either. But above all else, I would love to see an _Iron Druid Chronicles_ series. With _Westworld_ and _American Gods_ both in the works, I’m pretty excited for what “they” will think of next. ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/36 "2016-06-30T17:49:07Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Somebody could take another shot at _The Dresden Files_ and I wouldn’t complain. Especially if they base it on the source material instead of just lifting some names. The two tv episodes I managed to sit through had no Mister, no Mouse and no blue beetle. What a waste. I would LOVE to see HBO take a crack at Tad Williams _Otherland_ series. The budget would probably be a nightmare but that is an outstanding story. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/37 "2016-06-30T18:18:31Z")
Roger Zelazny’s Chronicles of Amber. Michael Moorcock’s Elric of Melnibone. (About thirty years ago, David Bowie would have been perfect for the role. Today . . . . Benedict Cumberbatch, perhaps?) Edgar Rice Burroughs’ Barsoom, Amtor, and Pellucidar. Flash Gordon. (This time, I want Timothy Dalton to play Ming.) Buck Rogers. Gardner Fox’s Kyrik. (Yes, I know, they were cheesy Conan rip-offs, but they amused me.) Poul Anderson’s _Fire Time_. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/38 "2016-06-30T19:41:59Z")
> [@G0sp3l](#): > > The two tv episodes I managed to sit through had no Mister, no Mouse and no blue beetle. What a waste. I liked the series. I believe it was the first episode where they showed a beetle as a nod but Harry had a jeep. I remember reading it was because Paul Blackthorne couldn’t manage to get in and out of a beetle without major effort and looking ridiculous. Blackthorne is 6" 4’, Harry is supposed to be 6" 9’. Maybe it was magic. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/39 "2016-06-30T20:14:17Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Aegon’s conquest seems to simple and straight forward to make a good story. The Dance of Dragons on the other hand is perfectly GoTsy. Yeah, Aegon’s conquest was kind of a “show up, roast some soldiers, have people bend their knees” kind of thing, although they could dramatize it a lot by doing it from the perspectives of the various Kings, rather than from Aegon’s perspective, so that he’s this totally weird sister-screwing dragon-riding guy showing up to wreck shit, instead of the protagonist and future “Aegon of House Targaryen, the First of His Name, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm.” But yeah, the Dance of the Dragons would definitely be pretty cool, as could the various Blackfyre Rebellions/War of the Ninepenny Kings, and Robert’s Rebellion. Honestly, I’d rather see the War of the Ninepenny Kings and Robert’s Rebellion to see the current old-guard characters (Ned Stark, Ser Barristan Selmy, Tywin Lannister, Robert Baratheon, et al) in their younger days, than have a totally new story set several hundred years prior to AGoT with characters who are only distantly related. ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645/40 "2016-06-30T21:59:45Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I liked the series. > > I believe it was the first episode where they showed a beetle as a nod but Harry had a jeep. I remember reading it was because Paul Blackthorne couldn’t manage to get in and out of a beetle without major effort and looking ridiculous. Blackthorne is 6" 4’, Harry is supposed to be 6" 9’. Maybe it was magic. I always imagine Harry as Blacktorne now (Harry Black[del]stone[/del]thorne Copperfield Dresden). I didn’t hate the show it just didn’t “feel” like Dresden to me. The beetle is a character and just as important as his duster. Looking ridiculous in the beetle is part of the charm. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-game-of-thrones-ends-i-wish-the-showrunners-focused-on-xyz/758645.md?page=3)