# When I say no weed I mean it Mister!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 18, 2003, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805 "2003-11-18T00:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/21 "2003-11-18T07:03:36Z")

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Dammit, hamsters, when we say no weed…

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**Author:** ![unclviny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e274bd/32.png) [@unclviny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclviny)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/22 "2003-11-18T07:09:23Z")

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My dad’s deal was simple “this is MY house and I will have the police search it anytime I want, I reccomend that you not have anything illegal in my house at any time because if you get arrested for something I do not approve of I WILL NOT be bailing you out”.

unclviny (who did the “dopehead” thing for a while, very carefully, ans not at home)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/23 "2003-11-18T07:17:30Z")

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Ads must be working. I hear emergency room admissions for marijuana overdose are at an all time low.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/24 "2003-11-18T07:19:29Z")

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Gee, I give thanks for having parents whose rules made sense.

(“If you smoke so much it makes trouble for you, then we’ll get involved. If you get stoned one time and walk right past us, comically attempting to act unstoned, we will realize we did the same thing when we were seventeen, and take no action except for teasing you about it in four years.”)

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**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/25 "2003-11-18T08:02:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Garfield226 \*  
> \*\*Yeah, it’s too bad we need it, I agree. \*\*

Really? You need a TV commercial telling you it’s OK to assert authority as a parent?

That’s sad. Don’t have any more kids.

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**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/26 "2003-11-18T08:21:19Z")

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He doesn’t have any kids.

I believe he meant “we” as in “our society.”

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**Author:** ![ccwaterback](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@ccwaterback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ccwaterback)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/27 "2003-11-18T10:59:17Z")

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Put that weed away Johnny, we don’t allow drugs in this household. Why can’t you be like the rest of the boys and just get all liquored up? Come on out to the living room, lets have a cigarette.

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**Author:** ![Audrey\_Levins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Audrey\_Levins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Audrey_Levins)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/28 "2003-11-18T11:47:41Z")

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I think all the anti-drug commercials are goofy; I can’t imagine them actually being effective.

But I was never a kid who wanted to try weed, so maybe I’m not the target-market or something.

The anti-weed commercial where the girl gets raped at a party is pretty sad, though; I know a lot of potsmokers, and I can’t think of a single one who gets so stoned they couldn’t get up off a sofa if someone was about to force them into sex. Is this some special Debilitating Weed that freezes all your muscles? It seems to me that if you over-exaggerate the dangers, you’re just going to seem that much more ridiculous to the kids. Most of whom know better.

Goofy, goofy.

I agree that kids shouldn’t smoke weed; hell, I don’t even like adults who smoke weed, b/c I think it’s childish.

But these commercials just make me laugh.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/29 "2003-11-18T15:04:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Apricot \*  
> In my area, the woman is black and sassy, not June Cleaver.  
> “When I say NO WEED, I mean NO WEED!” She is shown grounding him, turning off tv or radio or something.  
> I thought it was the most effective commercial yet, because both the mom and the kid were portrayed sympathetically. I wonder if it’s the same commercial.

Yeah, that’s the one in my area. She gets on him every time he talks on the phone at home, picks up a video game, etc. Finally when he’s apparently walking past the bleachers at school, some kids ask him if he wants some pot, and he says no way (because his mom just made his life hell). I didn’t see this commercial as his mom “letting” him hang out with the same friends, it looked like he was just running into people at school, which she surely can’t prevent. And that’s the **point** - parents can only do so much, but if you’re firm, maybe the kid will at least say no because of the hassle, if not agreeing that they shouldn’t be smoking pot.

I thought it was the most realistic of the anti-pot commercials - instead of showing pot leading to violent acts (yeah, right), it showed a mom taking charge and really giving her pot-smoking teen the riot act for doing drugs, and the guy shuddering at the thought of having to deal with that again. I don’t know if it’ll be effective, but at least it was sensible.

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/30 "2003-11-18T15:27:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> \*\*Actually, that’s one of the very few anti-drug commercials that I don’t have a problem with. The kid tried weed, and gets grounded. There’s nothing about him letting the toddler he’s babysitting drown, or running over some kid in a drive-through, or raping a girl at a crowded party, or blowing up the World Trade Center, or any of the other malicious lies these commercials usually try to spread. All it does is show a kid getting punished for doing something kids his age shouldn’t be doing in the first place. Instead of trying to demonize the drug, they make it about what the real issue is: disobeying your parents. \*\*

I fully agree with this. This commercial is far less offensive than the others.

Heh, when I was a teenager my dad got so mad about everything _except_ weed. He freaked out when I got caught smoking cigarettes, and checked my breath for alcohol. But when it came to pot, he actually gave me some from his stash. He told me that of all things to try, this would be the least harmful. That may sound crazy to some people, but it worked for us. I agree with him that I’d rather my kid smoke a little pot than be out drinking and driving or getting addicted to cigarettes.

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**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/31 "2003-11-18T15:36:55Z")

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I’ve always enjoyed the anti-drug commercials. Ever since the sweet pretty boy at the party sees the girl of his dreams accepting a joint, and walks away, I’ve been hooked.

I don’t know if they stopped me from doing drugs (I never did), but I still cried at the commercials. I cry at credit card commercials too (Remember the girl who went to Australia?) and cell phone commercials, so… maybe not a drug thing.

And I don’t know if I agree with you about misinformation, **Miller**. The drug trade is pretty disgusting (Thinking heroin here, not pot). Then again, the drug trade isn’t doing anything to the third world that Coca Cola or Nike isn’t doing…

But still, I’m tired of all the flak that anti-drug ads get. MS. I MEAN NO WEED is a hoot to watch, and maybe she’ll get through to the _parents_. The prescription drugs in the household and the alcohol in the household ads are good too.

Now, the anti-smoking ads by Phillip Morris make me want to light up all the time. Probably beause they’re ads by Phillip Morris. I like the [truth.com](http://truth.com) stuff, though, for the same reasons above. I react emotionally to the shock inflicted.

Its a bit sad that they’re now showing powerful parents and idiot teenagers who can’t think for themselves. What kind of message is that sending, compared to the empowerment of the 80s? [Truth.com](http://Truth.com) is the only campaign with a radical, pro-active message aimed at apathetic, disenchanted kids. Kudos to them for the effort, however futile it is.

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**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/32 "2003-11-18T15:39:33Z")

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I just want to know where all these roving drug dealers in the school yards are that just come up and offer you stuff; I can never find them when I want them. What a let down.

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**Author:** ![slu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@slu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slu)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/33 "2003-11-18T15:57:06Z")

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> I just want to know where all these roving drug dealers in the school yards are that just come up and offer you stuff; I can never find them when I want them. What a let down.

Yeah, it wasn’t that easy to get weed when I was in high school. We had to work our asses off for it. Now beer on the other hand was very easy to get.

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**Author:** ![Deadly\_Nightlight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Deadly\_Nightlight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deadly_Nightlight)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/34 "2003-11-18T16:01:03Z")

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Well this is just an IMHO thing, but to me these commercials make the kids look like they are in charge and their parents are trying to assert their authority. I have never seen this in real life ever.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/35 "2003-11-18T16:14:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Deadly Nightlight \*  
> \*\*Well this is just an IMHO thing, but to me these commercials make the kids look like they are in charge and their parents are trying to assert their authority. I have never seen this in real life ever. \*\*

Which one? The kids being in charge or the parents trying to assert authority? If it’s the former, we have plenty of Pit threads about parents not disciplining their kids.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/36 "2003-11-18T16:24:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Deadly Nightlight \*  
> Well this is just an IMHO thing, but to me these commercials make the kids look like they are in charge and their parents are trying to assert their authority. I have never seen this in real life ever.

Come visit my town - out of my inlaws alone, I can point to a couple examples of this. I griped in my LJ recently about a SIL who asked if her daughter could come over (we live close) for dinner, as she didn’t like what had been made. Note that mom was at work, daughter is early teens, and the girl had just screamed at her mom on the phone before this call. Yes, apparently her dear daughter couldn’t make a PB&J for herself if she wasn’t going to eat what was served. I don’t think so.

Or another one whose teenage daughter insisted she was taking her car and driving down with friends to Springfield for the weekend, and her parents let her go after a screaming match didn’t work, because they said they “can’t” stop her. Um, let’s see, taking the car away is a really good start. This little darling threw a drinking party for friends in her parent’s basement recently. Twice in the **same night** , the second time being 3 am, and they had come home and caught her during the first party, so they were home for the second.

I’m not even going to talk about the number of parents that host drinking parties for their kids and say “well, my kids will drink anyway and at least I know where they are this way” - as if their kids don’t drive to other friends’ houses on other nights and do the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/37 "2003-11-18T16:29:24Z")

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The “NO WEED” lady is on _billboards_ around here! The billboards show her with her arms crossed looking really tough while the kid lurks behind her. I think they refer to her as “The Enforcer” or something.

I’ll agree with the others that that one is the only anti-drug ad that is pretty reasonable. Sadly, some parents do need to be reminded about how to clearly and consistently discipline their kids. And they show that parental discipline is an effective disincentive for certain types of behavior.

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**Author:** ![Deadly\_Nightlight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Deadly\_Nightlight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deadly_Nightlight)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/38 "2003-11-18T18:21:26Z")

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Well then can I change this pitting to dumb parents who make commercials like this neccessary?

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/39 "2003-11-18T18:40:35Z")

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Yes.

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/40 "2003-11-18T19:17:49Z")

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Kids these days are too smart for these adds. But their parents haven’t built up a resistance to the brainwashing. That’s the kind of tolerance that comes with the signal overload which rugrats today are subjected to (ie the Web, Movies, TV, Video Games, E-Mail, 800 channels, IM). Those parents who grew up with just 10-20 channels and analog telephones still respond well to propaganda and the implied assumptions that they are stupid.

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> **Bart:**  
> Nothing you say can upset us. We’re the MTV generation.
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> **Lisa:**  
> We feel neither highs or lows.
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> **Homer:**  
> Really? What’s it like?
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> **Lisa:**  
> Ehh. [shrugs]

DaLovin’ Dj

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