# When I say no weed I mean it Mister! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 18, 2003, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805 "2003-11-18T00:18:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/61 "2003-11-20T03:51:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > **There’s nothing about him letting the toddler he’s babysitting drown, or running over some kid in a drive-through, or raping a girl at a crowded party…** Are you seriously suggesting that none of these things (or similar occurances) have ever happened? I’m not arguing that these are common effects of drug use, but certainly anything that impairs one’s mental faculty increases the risk of such things happening. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/62 "2003-11-20T04:12:05Z")
Exactly, **Q.E.D**. _Anything_ that impares one’s mental faculty increases the risk of such things happening. Which is why until they start airing similar commercials about _alcohol_, they’re just being gigantic hypocrites. Especially since there’s a greater risk of these things happening when one is drunk vs. stoned (the driving for sure). Those commercials are alluding to the fact that mj is illegal _because_ all of those horrible things could happen. _That’s_ why it’s so bad to smoke weed. Right. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/63 "2003-11-20T04:15:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \* > \*\*Are you seriously suggesting that none of these things (or similar occurances) have ever happened? I’m not arguing that these are common effects of drug use, but certainly anything that impairs one’s mental faculty increases the risk of such things happening. \*\* Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Or at least, I highly doubt that there’s never been an incident of any of the above that could be convlusively proven to have been the direct result of smoking pot, and _nothing else_. And yes, all three ads are specfically about marijuana, and make no mention of harder drugs like alcohol, heroin, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/64 "2003-11-20T04:56:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > \*\*Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Or at least, _I highly doubt that there’s never been an incident of any of the above that could be convlusively proven to have been the direct result of smoking pot_, and _nothing else_. And yes, all three ads are specfically about marijuana, and make no mention of harder drugs like alcohol, heroin, etc. \*\* Assuming you’re arguing the opposite way I am, don’t you mean “I highly doubt that there’s **ever** been an incident of any of the above that could be convlusively proven to have been the direct result of smoking pot”? If you meant it the way you wrote it, then that’s exactly what I said. Bolding mine. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/65 "2003-11-20T05:04:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lezlers \* > **. Especially since there’s a greater risk of these things happening when one is drunk vs. stoned (the driving for sure).** I never said otherwise. But if your kid was run over by a person who’d been smoking pot, would you say “well, he was smoking pot, so he should get less of a punishment than someone who was driving drunk, cause there’s less risk”? I think not. For the record, I have (and will if offered) smoked pot and wouldn’t complain if it was legalized. However, if I ever have kids, I’m not so sure I’d want them to smoke the stuff. Hypocritical? Maybe, but I’m sure it’s possible to live a happy life without it. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/66 "2003-11-20T06:11:43Z")
> [@](#): > > **Audrey Levins** : I agree that kids shouldn’t smoke weed; hell, I don’t even like adults who smoke weed, b/c I think it’s childish. That made me giggle for about a minute, but it might be just because I’m high. ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/67 "2003-11-20T06:34:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \* > \*\*For the record, I have (and will if offered) smoked pot and wouldn’t complain if it was legalized. However, if I ever have kids, I’m not so sure I’d want them to smoke the stuff. Hypocritical? Maybe, but I’m sure it’s possible to live a happy life without it. \*\* Well, thanks for the reminder that our kiddos might contemplate partaking of the evil weed. 😃 I smoked it for a couple of years in my youth…I simply cannot tolerate it now. My firefighter husband, however, longs for retirement so that he can smoke a joint. I remember the days when I when to high school - smoking porch for the cigs, in the field for the sweetleaf. For the record, having smoked pot, I am not a heroin addict. And, I will lie big-time to our children on the subject. It’s EVIL! ---
**Author:** ![Deadly\_Nightlight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Deadly\_Nightlight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deadly_Nightlight)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/68 "2003-11-20T15:43:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*Perhaps if the woman had been like, “Dammit, Johnny, you little punk, if I ever catch you smoking marijuana again I’m going to lay you out!” > > THEN it would be more realistic. \*\* Not sure how serious you are about that, but that is how my mom and friends moms would have reacted. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/69 "2003-11-20T21:25:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \* > \*\*Assuming you’re arguing the opposite way I am, don’t you mean “I highly doubt that there’s **ever** been an incident of any of the above that could be convlusively proven to have been the direct result of smoking pot”? If you meant it the way you wrote it, then that’s exactly what I said. > > Bolding mine. \*\* :smack: ---
**Author:** ![WhiteyFoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3e96dc/32.png) [@WhiteyFoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhiteyFoo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/70 "2003-11-20T22:46:48Z")
Most of the Anti-Drug/Drugs=Terrorism adds make me want to shoot up heroine and sell smack to elementary school kids. This one though, just boggles me. The reason the kid chooses not to smoke weed isn’t because of the health affects, or the threat of going to jail and having his future ruined, but because if he does, and mom finds out, he can’t talk on the phone. I think really effective adds would explain (quickly) the negaive effects of drug use. And leave it at that. \*\*Disclaimer - This post in no way means that I think marajuana is evil. Personally, I think there are far more bad things available at your local Quickie Mart. ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/71 "2003-11-20T23:48:20Z")
I don’t know , **WhiteyFoo** - my mom is pretty scary when she’s mad, and I’m 27. And while I know she smoked pot in college – it was the 70s, even my DAD did and if you’d known him you’d know why that still makes me laugh – I’m pretty sure I’d have been dead if I’d gotten caught at it under 18. And that sort of thing is much more immediate to a teenager than “in twenty years you might die a horrible nasty death.” At least this commercial TRIED to aim for something resembling reality. It didn’t succeed, but it’s better than the others. ---
**Author:** ![Jonmarzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jonmarzie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonmarzie)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/72 "2003-11-21T02:20:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Garfield226: > \* > Know what? Now that I’m away at college, I don’t do drugs or drink or have wild promiscuous sex even though it’s HIGHLY unlikely my parents would ever find out. Know why? Because they taught me values and morals and I want to make them proud. That’s what good parenting is. Garfield, you’re parents are awesome. I’m also at college, but I don’t drink/have sex/do drugs. It seems so rediculous that people would spend so much money on something so stupid. Yes, I do know potheads, and I have been around people who were high. They act stupid in a not funny sort of way. They look terrible, and you can’t carry on a decent conversation with them. Really, high people are no fun to be around. Seriously, guys. Druggies need to read a book, and stop philosophising about how the world is really like a huge game of connect-four. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/73 "2003-11-21T03:28:34Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by JonMarzie_ > Seriously, guys. Druggies need to read a book, and stop philosophising about how the world is really like a huge game of connect-four. I can’t do both? ---
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805/74 "2003-11-21T05:16:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonmarzie \* > **Really, high people are no fun to be around.** Unless you’re high too. Don’t worry, they probably don’t want to be around you when they’re high and you’re sober either. > [@](#): > > **Druggies need to read a book, and stop philosophising about how the world is really like a huge game of connect-four.** Yup, no drug user ever read a book. Or [wrote a book](http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v99/n882/a01.html), especially not a book that became a movie starring Jodie Foster. Because all they ever do is sit around talking about connect-four and eating Doritos, right? :wally [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-i-say-no-weed-i-mean-it-mister/213805.md?page=3)