# When is a Gay Politcal Rally not a Gay Political Rally? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 25, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182 "2024-10-25T02:10:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/1 "2024-10-25T02:10:23Z")
How about when it has absolutely nothing to do with LGBTQ+ rights at all, is promoted by the Log Cabin Republicans and there are Many more straight people than Gay people there: > **[No 'victim mentality' or rainbow flags: Gay Republicans rally for Trump](https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-politics-and-policy/gay-republicans-rally-for-trump-no-victims-no-rainbow-flags-rcna176940)** > > Organizers of the “Trump UNITY” events speculated that the former president could nab as much as 50% of the gay vote. How can you have a “Gay” rally and not have any rainbow flags?? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/2 "2024-10-25T03:52:07Z")
Well obviously, it’s because the attendees were RICH WHITE gay MEN, where the rich, white and male outweighs “teh gay” as long as you pay up. 🙄 And that’s probably the reason for support as well, they’re supporting as rich white guys who don’t want anyone else to get “theirs” and figure their wealth will insulate them from any actual consequences if Trump is elected. Which may not be wrong. Kinda like a number of fellow Jews I know, who are all about low taxes and preserving wealth, and to a lesser extent, Israel-first issues, who put up with the Christian Nationalism because they figure they’ll still be safe. Of course, in BOTH cases, they seem to be the minority of both LGBQT+ and Jews, and I strongly suspect that they’d find themselves _wrong_ about their assumptions that their wealth will protect them - oh, maybe not right now, but if Trump wins and finishes gutting our rule of law, there’s a [Nehemiah Scudder](https://issuepedia.org/Nehemiah_Scudder) in our not-too-distant future I’d bet. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/3 "2024-10-25T03:58:48Z")
> [@](#): > > How can you have a “Gay” rally and not have any rainbow flags?? I went to several like that in the early 1970’s. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/4 "2024-10-25T04:02:04Z")
You went to a gay rally that didn’t have rainbow flags back in the early 70’s _way before rainbow flags symbolized the movement?_. Not surprised, but that has nothing to do with why this particular group didn’t have them. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/5 "2024-10-25T04:05:28Z")
I’d hypothesize that the Log Cabin Republicans, while being gay, would see things like a rainbow pride flag as being a symbol of a liberal gay agenda, and thus, don’t care to use it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/6 "2024-10-25T04:11:20Z")
The Log Cabin Republicans don’t realize how much they don’t matter to the political party they are pandering to. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/7 "2024-10-25T04:24:25Z")
I went to the Log Cabin Republicans website and they are almost violently against transsexuals, while at the same time stating that they are establishing their goal of making the Republican Party more inclusive. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/8 "2024-10-25T12:52:23Z")
The RW agenda: advancing society at the rate of maybe 1 year every century. Maybe. Unless somebody gets scared. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/9 "2024-10-25T13:29:46Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The RW agenda: advancing society at the rate of maybe 1 year every century Make America [Gay 90s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Nineties) Again! ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/10 "2024-10-25T15:24:13Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The Log Cabin Republicans don’t realize how much they don’t matter to the political party they are pandering to. Probably. They certainly have effectively zero impact on the GOP’s policies towards LGBTQ+ people. OTOH, to the extent that GOP leadership even thinks about the Log Cabin Republicans, the group might, hypothetically, be seen as giving the GOP a fig-leaf of plausible deniability about their attitudes and treatment of gays: “We aren’t homophobic! See, there’s even a Republican gay group!” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/11 "2024-10-25T15:37:13Z")
It makes me wonder what percentage of Log Cabin Republicans are actually gay. ---
**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/12 "2024-10-25T15:42:55Z")
Shades of [Dean Browning](https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/11/10/21559458/dean-browning-dan-purdy-byl-holte-patti-labelle-twitter-gay-black-man), the black gay guy. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/13 "2024-10-25T19:02:22Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I went to the Log Cabin Republicans website and they are almost violently against transsexuals For them, LGBT means “Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, and Trump”. There’s also this from last year: > **[Isabella Riley Moody, Ambassador for the Log Cabin Republicans, Says The Log...](https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/post/isabella-riley-moody-ambassador-for-the-log-cabin-republicans-says-the-log-cabin-republicans-make-her-want-to-vomit)** The article opens: > Last month, the Log Cabin Republicans, an [organization](https://logcabin.org/about-us/) that claims to “[represent] LGBT conservatives and straight allies who support fairness, freedom, and equality,” announced that far-right [commentator](https://www.youtube.com/live/bA7JipF41ts?feature=share) Isabella Riley Moody had been named to its [2023 class of Outspoken Ambassadors](https://getoutspoken.com/gaytriots-2/meet-the-2023-class-of-outspoken-ambassadors). > > The choice of Moody to serve as an ambassador for a gay conservative organization was rather unconventional, given that Moody is a virulent homophobe who [brags](https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1628066057368793088) that the word “f\*ggot” is part of her “[everyday vocabulary](https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1626246835584090112)” and [wishes](https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/log-cabin-republicans-name-homophobic-bigot-isabella-riley-moody-as-an-outspoken-ambassador/) that the country was a more “homophobic society.” ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-a-gay-politcal-rally-not-a-gay-political-rally/1009182/14 "2024-10-25T19:16:09Z")
Again, I don’t think any of are all that surprised in a MAGA world, that the loyalty to Trump is the only factor in declaring a group’s worth or identity. What it theoretically stands for, and is supporting isn’t even on the table anymore. It’s about paying your way into Trump’s good graces. Like how the party of Christian Nationalism pledges fealty to the most godless, sinful man imaginable.