# When is Trump going to give up Twitter?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 1, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555 "2016-12-01T20:44:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555/61 "2016-12-02T04:34:35Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I don’t make fun of you for being ugly.

Putting in no effort at all, I see.

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> I was smart enough to get an engineering degree.

Join the club.

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> And why are you fixated on people’s IQ anyways? What are you compensating for?

A limp effort at projection, really? No wonder you like Trump.

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> Anyways, perhaps someone competent will chime in to define ‘hate speech’ and how it’s not really censorship.

Oh, it’s censorship, all right (or at least related to it, depending on how rigidly “censorship” is defined). Do you know why “hate speech” exists as a concept, though? You might want to do some reading of your own country’s recent history.  
In any case, Twitter banning Trump might end up being more of a public service - reducing the avenues by which Trump can bring embarrassment to the United States.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555/62 "2016-12-02T04:52:43Z")

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OK, it’s not a Trump tweet, but as another example of his cluelessness about appropriate communications, he told the British Prime Minister on the phone, “If you travel to the U.S., you should let me know.” (I’m no diplomat, but even I understand that the Prime Minister of the UK does not just casually visit the US, so that the POTUS isn’t even aware she’s in town.)

This was mentioned in an [article](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us/politics/trumps-off-the-cuff-remarks-to-world-leaders-leave-diplomats-aghast.html) about the casual phone calls he’s made to various world leaders, upsetting diplomatic situations.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555/63 "2016-12-02T05:13:43Z")

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555/64 "2016-12-02T05:24:41Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Putting in no effort at all, I see.
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> Join the club.
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> A limp effort at projection, really? No wonder you like Trump.
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> Oh, it’s censorship, all right (or at least related to it, depending on how rigidly “censorship” is defined). Do you know why “hate speech” exists as a concept, though? You might want to do some reading of your own country’s recent history.  
> In any case, Twitter banning Trump might end up being more of a public service - reducing the avenues by which Trump can bring embarrassment to the United States.

Hate speech as a concept? Sure. Precisely defining it or leaving it up to the state to censor or control speech? I’d rather see an offensive word than live in a country where the citizenry is that stupid to entrust the state with that power.

I’m not a free speech absolutist. But I don’t see the role of government in stifling legitimate debate on illegal immigration or dangerous ideologies/religions. I don’t see the role of government in punishing politically incorrect comedy or satire either.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555/65 "2016-12-02T05:34:09Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Precisely defining it or leaving it up to the state to censor or control speech?

It’s not the state in this case.

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> I’d rather see an offensive word than live in a country where the citizenry is that stupid to entrust the state with that power.

Well, conveniently, you DO live in a country where a good portion of the citizenry is indeed that stupid, ref: Trump’s tweet on flag-burning and the support it generated.

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> I don’t see the role of government in punishing politically incorrect comedy or satire either.

Let’s see if your boy Trump feels the same way. Of course, it’s possible he simply can’t concentrate on the issue long enough to do anything about it.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555/66 "2016-12-02T17:26:32Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Hate speech as a concept? Sure. Precisely defining it or leaving it up to the state to censor or control speech? I’d rather see an offensive word than live in a country where the citizenry is that stupid to entrust the state with that power.
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> I’m not a free speech absolutist. But I don’t see the role of government in stifling legitimate debate on illegal immigration or dangerous ideologies/religions. I don’t see the role of government in punishing politically incorrect comedy or satire either.

But you personally - what is hate speech to you?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555/67 "2016-12-02T18:58:16Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> But you personally - what is hate speech to you?

Anything that isn’t somewhat factual and calls for unnecessary violence would be a good start. Like threatening a politician or his supporters is pretty hateful. Not wanting open borders is not. Saying women should be beat by their husbands because an archaic book says so is hateful. Saying women should earn what the market is willing to pay even if it leads to disparate outcomes is not. Saying throw the Jews in the oven merely because they are Jewish is hateful. Saying throw the leaders and soldiers of ISIS in the oven because of their actions is not.

I still don’t care to have it regulated. The only thing that really got me rethinking free speech are a few gore sites I had the misfortune to have had the curiosity to click on once or twice. There are some depraved people in this world.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555/68 "2016-12-03T00:32:46Z")

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[Trump’s addressed Taiwan as an individual state](http://theslot.jezebel.com/trump-is-first-president-to-call-taiwan-since-1979-and-1789624017) which will hopefully help his son w/ potential Trump brand business there but will anger China and we will hear about it.  
He’s gone from bull in a china shop to MRSA in a children’s ward.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555/69 "2016-12-03T00:42:04Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> [Trump’s addressed Taiwan as an individual state](http://theslot.jezebel.com/trump-is-first-president-to-call-taiwan-since-1979-and-1789624017) which will hopefully help his son w/ potential Trump brand business there but will anger China and we will hear about it.  
> He’s gone from bull in a china shop to MRSA in a children’s ward.

I have to admit a certain morbid curiosity in what could result from this.

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**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555/70 "2016-12-03T00:55:24Z")

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Trump is too immature to act like a president !

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555/71 "2016-12-03T00:59:39Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I have to admit a certain morbid curiosity in what could result from this.

There would be many children w/ MRSA, so lots of antibiotic drips and scared parents I would think.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555/72 "2016-12-03T01:10:39Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> There would be many children w/ MRSA, so lots of antibiotic drips and scared parents I would think.

Well, maybe nuclear war with China would reset their priorities.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-is-trump-going-to-give-up-twitter/773555/73 "2016-12-03T01:30:09Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> [Trump’s addressed Taiwan as an individual state](http://theslot.jezebel.com/trump-is-first-president-to-call-taiwan-since-1979-and-1789624017) which will hopefully help his son w/ potential Trump brand business there but will anger China and we will hear about it.  
> He’s gone from bull in a china shop to MRSA in a children’s ward.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I have to admit a certain morbid curiosity in what could result from this.

I just started a Great Debates thread on this, basically asking, _is it good or bad to cut through diplomatic red tape?_

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