When moderators break the rules.

There is no way this rises to the level of suspension, pissiness notwithstanding. I doesn’t even need a Note. I recall making a similar mistake and correcting myself a few posts later and nothing came of it. I’d like the Mod team, and I am sure they are discussing it, to say that they won’t delete posts like this in the future.

Ah, no. Not just anyone is allowed to become a moderator, and we reject far more candidates than we accept.

There has been so much discussion about the 7-hrs-after-the-fact modified post, do we have a link to the 2nd post in question? This one:

So what’s your acceptance rate? Closer to Stanford (5%) or Arizona State University (84%)?

Guy, let’s give them a break.

But I would like to re-open longer edit times.

Why don’t we make Peter Morris a mod? Yeah, that’ll do it.

I’m sure that I’ve seen posts (and possibly made them) in the wrong forum that were edited with a “Jinkees, thought this was the pit! Sorry!” and nothing happened, mod-wise.

But I don’t think I’ve ever seen a post where the mod gave a warning or note and the person said, “Jinkees, thought this was the pit! Sorry!” and the warning or note was taken away. Does this happen if the mod is Quick Draw McGraw and manages to get in a warning or note during the edit window and the user edits the post within the window as well?

It was cited in post #15. tomndebb was doing his usual accusation of deliberate intent - his allegation that he was merely pointing out errors is false.

Regards,
Shodan

I did not delete the post as if it had never been.
I did not “clean up” the post to pretend no insult had been given.
I did replace the post with an apology. The only point of leaving the original post intact would be to ensure that the insulted poster was still insulted. I don’t see the point in that, given that I have never denied having posted the insult and I presumed that, after seven hours, or so, it would have been seen by numerous posters.

I did note that I should be Warned for the post. I was unaware that the software prevented Mods from being Warned.

If a regular poster insults someone, do you edit out the insult so that the insulted poster is no longer insulted?

I sure would like to be a moderator … not that I’d do any moderating … I just want to be abusive with the power … make people act like the RCA dog when they hear my voice.

We know that but thanks anyway.

Yep. And you shouldn’t have replaced the post. That’s what nearly everyone has been saying. Your presumption is mistaken by the way.

Irrelevant.

I’m not seeing the “deliberately misread” as a problem. In fact I’m not sure how a person “deliberately misreads” something. But it does seem like “pretend” and “made up” are more or less the same. Having said that, I don’t like the rule clarification that “you just made that up” = “you’re lying”, but since that’s the rule, then that’s the rule.

Tom: You really seem to be missing a key point, per jsgoddess’s post. Almost everyone here has been asking that, and you don’t seem to get it.

So, just for the record. We understand that you don’t want to go back and re-edit the post to what it was originally. Can you at least admit that it was a mistake to do so (edit your own post after the 5 min time limit was up), and clearly state that it won’t be done in the future?

“Deliberate” = 'Intentional". Intent is what makes a false statement into a lie. Lies are what is banned, in theory.

If you like, go ahead and test the theory by calling various posters out for their intent in GD. You can even use exactly the same phraseology. I’m guessing it will somehow be different.

Regards,
Shodan

I wonder if I posted something like this in GD whether it would have been moderated?

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19469538&postcount=65

It’s the kind of thing that I’d avoid posting in GD as it doesn’t foster discussion. I don’t know where the insult line is, but IF I was a mod, I’d try to set an example with my posting instead of demonstrating the little exceptions to the insult rule. Just sayin’.

Sure. If I should be warned for it, I certainly should not do it again.

How contrite.

Tom, could you please address the question of calling someone a liar. Hear are the phrases in question.

  • "you deliberately misread "
  • "You deliberately ignore " (twice)
  • “pretending”

Would you please explain why this isn’t an accusation of lying.

You have previously ruled that “making these things up” is the same as an accusation of lying. Can you please explain the difference between “making these things up” and “pretending.”

The poster submitted five separate posts, (almost in a row), that were silly on the face of them. Rather than smack him with a Mod Note or a Warning for threadshitting, I turned his own claims back on him with a smiley.

I prefer to not wield the Mod hammer if another approach will do the job.
(That poster then responded in kind and moved on to a different approach to the topic.)