# When Moderators Lie

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 16, 2002, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151 "2002-07-16T00:58:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kallessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7993a0/32.png) [@Kallessa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kallessa)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/21 "2002-07-16T07:07:18Z")

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> _Originally posted by astro_
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> Umm…not that Ed Zotti would crap on my lawn or anything like that.

Would he crap on my lawn? I mean, what an honor, **Ed Zotti** doing his doings on my lawn. On a day when maybe he talked to **Cecil**. Ohmygod, maybe he ate lunch with Cecil, and Cecil gave him a bite from his lunch, and so Ed Zotti would be crapping food that Cecil ate, but not really but in a way because **Cecil** ordered it and it was on his plate and maybe his fork touched it . . .oh, I feel faint, must lie down, it’s just too much. I’ve never been this close to greatness.

Too much?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/22 "2002-07-16T07:12:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by astro \*  
> \*\*Umm…not that Ed Zotti would crap on my lawn or anything like that. \*\*

I dunno, someone’s been leaving all these fewmits out there.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/23 "2002-07-16T10:23:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Buck The Diver \*  
> \*\*Opal,
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> Why didn’t you handle this via e-mail? \*\*

Because Opal has a persecution complex where she see’s any possible negative mention of her and her site as an all out attack on her. I can GUARENTEE that if there is any sort of negative reply to her by a reg or a moderator, there will be a new thread opened in the pit by her.

Every. Single. Time.

Its not big, it’s not clever, and the routine is just wearing thin.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/24 "2002-07-16T10:43:20Z")

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Oh no, not again. :sigh:

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/25 "2002-07-16T10:48:15Z")

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Hmm… this gives me an idea! Officially Licensed and Sanctioned Straight Dope Underpants, each pair personally signed by Cecil!

C’mon, Ed, you _know_ we can make a fortune! You an’ me… we split the profits 50-50… whattaya say?

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/26 "2002-07-16T10:56:16Z")

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Pre-soiled?

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**Author:** ![lucwarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@lucwarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lucwarm)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/27 "2002-07-16T11:43:50Z")

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I see somebody beat me to the “Fox” angle.

Is Opal the girl in the “keyhole” design? Just wondering.

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**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/28 "2002-07-16T11:55:42Z")

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I think its more like PETA where any publicity is good publicity.

We all know what eye candy it is to see a lock on a thread.  
“oooh! what train wreck happened there? must see!”

and now a pit thread?  
even MORE people to buy T-Shirts.

It’s geting really old.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/29 "2002-07-16T11:56:22Z")

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Is there going to be a thread called ‘When Opal apologises?’

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/30 "2002-07-16T12:18:21Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \*  
> \*\*Hmm… this gives me an idea! Officially Licensed and Sanctioned Straight Dope Underpants, each pair personally signed by Cecil!
> 
> C’mon, Ed, you _know_ we can make a fortune! You an’ me… we split the profits 50-50… whattaya say? \*\*

Throw in a free tube of toothpaste and the Reader™ will be interested.

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**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/31 "2002-07-16T12:19:07Z")

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Who’s the whining poster  
That’s a roiling pain to all the mods?  
OPAL!  
Ya damn right!

Who is the chick that would post baseless claims  
About her fellow dopers?  
OPAL!  
Can you dig it?

Who’s the gal that goes overboard  
When someone posts about her?  
OPAL!  
Right On!

They say this doper Opal is a bad mother  
SHUT YOUR MOUTH!  
I’m talkin’ 'bout Opal.  
THEN WE CAN DIG IT!

She’s a complicated dame  
And no one understands her but her husband.  
Opal Cat!

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/32 "2002-07-16T12:24:54Z")

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**Oddsmaker Fenris predicts** :

“It’s **Coldfire’s** fault. SOMEHOW, **Coldfire’s** behind this!” 4:1

If it is, chances that he’ll be called a ‘Nazi’ 2:1

“Hundreds of e-mails supporting me. No, you can’t see them.” 3:1

“I’ve had my say. Now close the thread.” 1:1

“You’re all too DUMB to understand what I _really_ meant!” 5:1

“:rolleyes:” 2:1

“Yeah, it’s against the rules, but it’s _different_ when I do it.” 3:1

“Everybody’s out to get me! Especially the Mods!” 4:1

(Some sort of hysterical over-reaction to **Ed** ’s post) 2:1

The odds that the word “fucking” or “stupid-ass” will be used if there is? 1:1

Odds that someone _claiming_ to be from Fathom (but probably isn’t) will register to say everyone else sucks and that Fathom is much cooler than here and we’re all mean? 2:1

Odds that this will be met with a yawn by all concerned parties? 1:1

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/33 "2002-07-16T12:27:27Z")

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I’ll take an accumulator on 1, 4, 10 and 11 please.

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/34 "2002-07-16T12:44:00Z")

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You know, **Fenris** , none of that might actually happen if everyone didn’t keep prodding and poking and provoking her in this thread. So she over-reacts and claims everyone is out to get her - you think the way to remedy this is to poke fun at her? Think that really helps the situation?

Your last post was the equivalent of “pulling up a lawn chair”, laughing at things **Opal** ’s done in the past, and ganging up on her by encouraging others to do the same. No matter how ridiculous Opal is or is not being, I think that’s sad.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/35 "2002-07-16T12:53:42Z")

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except, of course, **Francesca, Opal** _started_ this thread.

and, having followed the saga through the stages, I could have predicted this whole thing. She originally posted a thread about t-shirt designs, linking her ‘for sale here’ link. it was closed and she was informed about the rule.

Saw this one. And agree that it amounts to a ‘for sale’ site. Given that the mods also closed down a joke thread where **Esprix** was auctioning off gum w/attached gay porn (and it was obviously a joke, bids were a penny sort of thing), I’m curious why anyone would be surprised at this.

and, FWIW, I’m quite happy that folks aren’t selling things right and left around here.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/36 "2002-07-16T13:07:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by wring \*  
> **except, of course, Francesca, Opal _started_ this thread.**

That, and it isn’t exactly the first time it happened.

I think the reactions in this thread, be they from the board owner or from ordinary members, are very telling. One can only take so much bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/37 "2002-07-16T13:09:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
> \*\*I think the reactions in this thread, be they from the board owner or from ordinary members, are very telling. One can only take so much bullshit. \*\*

As maybe, this still feels like yet another SDMB pile on.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/38 "2002-07-16T13:14:51Z")

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Not a bad point, although one can wonder if it’s still a pile-on if you start it yourself, with no valid complaint, for the umpteenth time.

Pitting a newbie for poor spelling and getting 54 regulars to agree with you may be considered a pile-on.

This hardly qualifies, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/39 "2002-07-16T13:20:42Z")

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Since I think the point has been made could this thread be closed down then.

Or are ye waiting for Opalcat to come back and apologise / tell Ed to go fuck himself.

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-moderators-lie/119151/40 "2002-07-16T13:23:53Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
> \*\*That, and it isn’t exactly the first time it happened.
> 
> I think the reactions in this thread, be they from the board owner or from ordinary members, are very telling. One can only take so much bullshit. \*\*

I think that is the key. ☹ There is one golden rule here and IMHO \*\*Opal \*\* stepped over it. If anything **Opal** is being given the benefit of the doubt- again.

While I do not have a dog in this fight, I hope **Opal** apologizes so we can all move on. Oh, and I like T-shirts! 🆒

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