# When One Fan Matters **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 31, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664 "2017-01-31T15:06:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/1 "2017-01-31T15:06:31Z")
The most current example that comes to mind is **Lin-Manuel Miranda** , who simply loved and could relate to **Ron Chernow’s** Bio of the founding father. His being a fanboy is what inspired him to write the show, and now that book will be cited as repositioning Hamilton’s legacy. It had sold fine before, but has gone on to huge sales volumes. I suspect we’ve done a few of these threads, but it seems like it could lead to good stories. What are other examples? ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/2 "2017-01-31T15:45:25Z")
Well, Oprah has made a habit out of endorsing books (among other things) and some of the authors have experienced solid careers as a result. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/3 "2017-01-31T15:56:05Z")
I don’t know he would fall into the category of “fan,” but Carl Van Doren starting championing an obscure 19th century failed novelist (long out of print) in 1917. His article on the subject, and his encouragement of Raymond Weaver to write a biography, led to the appreciation of Herman Melville as a major American novelist. Tom Hoskins fanatically worked to track down a forgotten 1920s blues musician, Mississippi John Hurt. Due to his efforts, Hurt, who was working as a sharecropper, got a recording contract and was the hit of the Newport Folk Festival in 1963. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/4 "2017-02-04T03:09:20Z")
Would _Monty Python’s Flying Circus_ have ever broken out in the United States if the program manager at KERA in Dallas hadn’t decided to take a chance on it? ---
**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/5 "2017-02-04T03:44:46Z")
Just finished a biography of John Hammond. If you were Billie Holiday, or Charlie Christian, or Bob Dylan or Bruce Springsteen, it mattered if John Hammond liked you. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/6 "2017-02-04T04:11:56Z")
According to the Woodward-Armstrong book on the 1970s Supreme Court “The Brethren”, the initial vote was 5-3 to uphold Muhammad Ali’s conviction for draft evasion. Justice John Marshall Harlan was assigned to write the majority opinion. A law clerk advised Justice Harlan to read the teachings of Elijah Muhammad. Harlan did and decided that Ali’s religion exempted its followers from fighting in unjust wars. The policy had been that a conscientious objector must oppose all wars. Harlan decided that Ali fit this description and changed his vote. More important, he persuaded the other justices to change their votes since a 4-4 decision would have upheld Ali’s conviction, which was done citing a government error (a suggestion by Justice Potter Stewart). ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/7 "2017-02-04T19:14:52Z")
I just finished reading [Max Perkins: Editor of Genius](https://www.amazon.com/Max-Perkins-Editor-Scott-Berg-ebook/dp/B0049MPVK4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486235203&sr=8-1&keywords=Max+Perkins%3A+editor+of+genius), after seeing the movie _Genius_ with Colin Firth. (The movie is not very good, and IMHO misses the best parts of the book.) Perkins was the editor for F. Scott Fitzgerald, Ernest Hemmingway and Thomas Wolfe. While he did a lot to further the careers of Fitzgerald and Hemmingway, he was probably entirely responsible for Wolfe’s career. He liked Wolfe’s disjointed, ridiculously overlong manuscript enough to work with him to turn it into _Look Homeward, Angel_. But my favorite story is about Marjorie Rawling. He liked her stories about people living in the backwoods swamps of Florida so much that he told her to write a book about a young boy coming of age in that setting. He said it should be like \*Treasure Island \*or _Tom Sawyer_. She was annoyed that he was basically asking her to write a classic, but she gave it a shot, and wrote _The Yearling_. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/8 "2017-02-06T03:54:35Z")
I’ve written before about the love and respect I have for Minutemen. To this day I feel that Mike Watt and George Hurley were the greatest rhythm section that have ever existed in rock and roll. Mike Watt has since put together countless projects and one-offs, gone on to play with The Stooges, and had a fascinating and productive career. But it almost didn’t happen. After D.'s death, Mike Watt was crushed by not just the loss of a bandmate, but also his best friend since they were 13 years old. These guys grew up together, learned to play their instruments together, to write songs… everything they ever did was tied to the other one in a joyously creative partnership: their music, their life philosophies, everything. Mike was ready to pretty much toss in the towel as far as life in general was concerned, until one persistent fan changed everything:[ > [@](#): > > Firehose was formed in the spring of 1986 shortly after the accidental death of D. Boon brought an end to Watt and Hurley’s previous band, Minutemen. Crawford, a then 21-year-old Ohio State student and Minutemen fan was invited up on the roof of Camper Van Beethoven’s van in Columbus, Ohio.[1] The members of Camper Van Beethoven told Crawford a false rumor that Watt and Hurley were auditioning guitarists for the band. Crawford, having found Watt’s phone number in the phone book, called him up and expressed his desire to come out to California and play with them. Still mourning the loss of his friend Boon, Watt initially was not interested and had lost much of his desire to play music, however Crawford’s persistence eventually paid off when he showed up unannounced in San Pedro and asked Watt for the chance to come over and play for him. Watt eventually agreed and the two met with Crawford “auditioning” for Watt by playing him The Who’s, “I’m One” as well as a few Minutemen songs. Impressed with Crawford’s passion and enthusiasm, Watt and Hurley agreed to give the inexperienced “kid” from Ohio a shot and the band was formed. Crawford quickly relocated to San Pedro where he became known as ed fROMOHIO and spent nine months sleeping under a desk in Watt’s one bedroom apartment. The name of the band was taken from a short film of Bob Dylan doing “Subterranean Homesick Blues” as Watt thought it was funny when Dylan held up a cue card for the lyric that said “firehose”. > > The band played their first gig in June 1986 and by the end of the year released their debut album, ‘Ragin’, Full On’ via the independent label, SST. That same year, they also supported Sonic Youth on their “Flaming Telepaths Tour”. The band quickly gained a loyal fanbase especially among the underground skateboarding crowd thanks in part to the inclusion of some of their early material in several key skateboarding videos from the late 1980s. “Brave Captain” from Ragin’, Full On, as well as “Sometimes”, “Hear Me”, and “Windmilling” from their sophomore release, If’n were all featured in the Santa Cruz Skateboards video series, “Streets on Fire”. > > Over the course of seven and a half years, the band developed their own musical identity apart from Minutemen while still maintaining the same dynamic synthesis of punk, funk, and free jazz. They toured non-stop and consistently played to packed audiences. All in all, Firehose played 980 gigs, released five full-length albums and two EPs before disbanding in 1994. They played their final gig on February 12, 1994 at the Warner Grand Theatre in San Pedro, California. ]([Firehose (band) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_(band))) 30 years later, [they still totally fucking rock](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSv8FVJtbAk)! ---
**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/9 "2017-05-01T04:03:18Z")
I guess you could say Gregory Watson was a fan of a [200-year-old proposal for an amendment to the U.S. Constitution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-seventh_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Revival_of_interest). ---
**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/10 "2017-05-01T09:50:46Z")
Arguably two fans, but the Academy Award winning documentary Searching for Sugar Man is like watching this exact process affecting the life of a living artist. (Aaaaaand, now I’m gonna re-watch it and start crying hot baby tears like I did the first time…) Edit: I’m not sure Oprah or David Letterman (ex. Harvey Pekar) count, it’s possible they’re genuine fans but it’s conceivable there’s other forces at play. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/11 "2017-05-01T13:52:18Z")
I can’t remember the woman’s name off the top of my head, but she orchestrated a letter writing campaign to get NBC to renew the original Star Trek for a third season. Without that third season it likely would not have had enough episodes to go into rerun syndication and would have just become one of those “favorite shows that nobody else remembers”. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/12 "2017-05-01T14:03:10Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > I can’t remember the woman’s name off the top of my head, but she orchestrated a letter writing campaign to get NBC to renew the original Star Trek for a third season. Without that third season it likely would not have had enough episodes to go into rerun syndication and would have just become one of those “favorite shows that nobody else remembers”. Betty Jo (Bjo) Trimble (the person I came into this thread to mention). ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/13 "2017-05-01T14:43:09Z")
Quentin Tarantino Revived John Travolta’s career ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/14 "2017-05-01T15:20:44Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > Quentin Tarantino Revived John Travolta’s career Is that a good thing? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/15 "2017-05-01T16:03:02Z")
Donna Halper, of WMMS out of Cleveland, noticed a song on an indie record out of Canada in 1974. She thought ‘Working Man’ would go over well with Cleveland’s blue collar culture. That got Rush their first US supporting tour and a major label deal. The next 40+ years is history. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/16 "2017-05-01T16:04:33Z")
I’m sure mr. Travolta appreciates it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/17 "2017-05-01T18:08:56Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > I can’t remember the woman’s name off the top of my head, but she orchestrated a letter writing campaign to get NBC to renew the original Star Trek for a third season. Without that third season it likely would not have had enough episodes to go into rerun syndication and would have just become one of those “favorite shows that nobody else remembers”. I’m sure by now there would have been an ironic-gritty reboot movie made. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/18 "2017-05-01T20:15:55Z")
There have been many comic book fans who became creators in the medium, but I’d say the one who mattered most was Roy Thomas, who pretty much single-handedly created a modern interest in the Golden Age characters at both Marvel and DC. ---
**Author:** ![Peanuthead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peanuthead/32/360_2.png) [@Peanuthead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanuthead)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/19 "2017-05-01T20:40:53Z")
[Jack Abbott](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Belly_of_the_Beast)found himself a champion in Norman Mailer. Didn’t turn out too well for a waiter named Richard Adan though. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664/20 "2017-05-01T21:07:22Z")
> [@cmkeller](#): > > There have been many comic book fans who became creators in the medium, but I’d say the one who mattered most was Roy Thomas, who pretty much single-handedly created a modern interest in the Golden Age characters at both Marvel and DC. Can you tell us more about this? What did he do? Nice to see this thread have a bit more life! I will add that **Malcolm Cowley’s** work on anthologies of **Faulkner** and \*\*Fitzgerald \*\*have been cited as instrumental to reviving their regard in Literature. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-one-fan-matters/778664.md?page=2)