# When Pope John Paul II becomes a Saint, what will he be called? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [April 2, 2007, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-pope-john-paul-ii-becomes-a-saint-what-will-he-be-called/398416 "2007-04-02T13:17:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-pope-john-paul-ii-becomes-a-saint-what-will-he-be-called/398416/21 "2007-04-02T19:03:49Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] No, no no. He was a **pius** man–a man like Pope **Pius** X. You’ll accept that, right? [/QUOTE] No, that would be Pope John Paul 3.14159 . . . . ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-pope-john-paul-ii-becomes-a-saint-what-will-he-be-called/398416/22 "2007-04-02T19:07:40Z")
[QUOTE=Colibri] No, that would be Pope John Paul 3.14159 . . . . [/QUOTE] When come back bring piety? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-pope-john-paul-ii-becomes-a-saint-what-will-he-be-called/398416/23 "2007-04-02T19:38:10Z")
[QUOTE=Polycarp] St. Pius X, née Giuseppe Sarto [/QUOTE] Not to pick on you and your informative post, Polycarp, but this is one of my pet peeves. A man is _né_ (original name), a woman is _née_ (maiden name). If you are engaged to a man, he is your _fiancé_. If you are engaged to a woman, she is your _fiancée_. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-pope-john-paul-ii-becomes-a-saint-what-will-he-be-called/398416/24 "2007-04-02T19:44:08Z")
[QUOTE=Malodorous] Ah, but then it’s going to be confusing as hell if, after Pope John Paul II is made a saint, a bunch of miracles get attributed to Pope John Paul I and he gets named a Saint as well. Then Pope John Paul I would be Saint John Paul II and Pope John Paul II would be Saint John Paul I. [/QUOTE] You think that’s bad? What if you have a vision of two holy men, and one of them says “I’m St. John, and he’s St. James”. How would you pick them out of [this list](http://www.catholic.org/saints/stindex.php?lst=J)? ([catholic.org](http://catholic.org)) What makes it even worse is that Jan = Jean = John, and Jacob = Jakob = Jacques = James (= Diego!) ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-pope-john-paul-ii-becomes-a-saint-what-will-he-be-called/398416/25 "2007-04-02T19:55:21Z")
[QUOTE=Polycarp] He already has a Cause at the Vatican. (“Cause” is the technical term for “officially recognized advocacy group for beatification and/or canonization.”) [/QUOTE] Any truth to the rumor that Father Guido Sarducci has been appointed Devil’s Advocate? ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-pope-john-paul-ii-becomes-a-saint-what-will-he-be-called/398416/26 "2007-04-02T23:13:20Z")
[QUOTE=Colibri] Any truth to the rumor that Father Guido Sarducci has been appointed Devil’s Advocate? [/QUOTE] Pope John Paul II himself got rid of the Devil’s advocate position in 1983, so unless Pope Benedict XVI is planning to restore the position I’d say no. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-pope-john-paul-ii-becomes-a-saint-what-will-he-be-called/398416/27 "2007-04-02T23:37:57Z")
[QUOTE=Kythereia] Pope John Paul II himself got rid of the Devil’s advocate position in 1983, so unless Pope Benedict XVI is planning to restore the position I’d say no. 🙂 [/QUOTE] Well Benedict _is_ a traditionalist. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-pope-john-paul-ii-becomes-a-saint-what-will-he-be-called/398416/28 "2007-04-03T00:49:20Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] Perhaps this warrants a thread of its own, but what would be a scientific explanation for the case of Sister Marie-Simon-Pierre, cured of Parkinson’s after praying to JP2? [/QUOTE] I was thinking about this as well- considering she sought treatment prior to the miracle of her healing, I would think it would be simple to do some tests. Any docs want to weigh in, here or elsewhere? ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-pope-john-paul-ii-becomes-a-saint-what-will-he-be-called/398416/29 "2007-04-03T03:20:21Z")
Dead. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-pope-john-paul-ii-becomes-a-saint-what-will-he-be-called/398416/30 "2007-04-03T03:28:06Z")
[QUOTE=EJsGirl] I was thinking about this as well- considering she sought treatment prior to the miracle of her healing, I would think it would be simple to do some tests. [/QUOTE] Spontaneous remission does happen. That would be perceived as a miracle. The remainder of my post I shall leave as an exercise for the reader. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-pope-john-paul-ii-becomes-a-saint-what-will-he-be-called/398416.md?page=1)