Did you even read my OP? I’m not talking at all about homicides at religious locations. I was talking about what would amount to “acts of God;” stones falling, fire, and trampling. You can say what ever you want about a gun man that walks into a church and opens fire, but this thread focuses on situations like the roof of a church falling and killing everyone inside.
I didn’t ask that question. I simply said that people don’t seem to have taken a temple burning down as evidence of God’s wrath, which I agree with.
Look, I don’t think that God is a puppeteer, determining our every move and our exact moment of death. Death is something that is intrinsic to the world. It happens, sooner or later, to everyone, and I don’t think that God is interfering with it every single time. Hopefully, people would live so as to be ready for it when it comes–though I doubt that most of us do.
Why should everyone’s death conform to some sort of rule linked to their behavior? Why, when every person is a complex individual, should circumstances be exactly the same for everyone?
Doesn’t that answer your original question? Just because a person is praying, that should not guarantee that he won’t die while he’s there doing that. Some people will die of ‘natural’ (= God-inflicted) causes even while praying at a holy place.
I dunno. Maybe there are more deaths at temples than at, oh, let’s say, at the Motor Vehicle Agency. Does anyone have any statistics available?
The classic Jewish response is that God wants us to serve Him of our own free will, and if there was any sort of thing which would guarantee health or wealth or any such reward, it would take away the element of free choice. There are loads of things which tend to give a person such rewards, but they’re always either non-guaranteed or unprovable. Usually both. Thus restoring our freedom to choose.
There is a big difference between God (spirituality) and religion (rules and regulations concerning God). It is the difference between the symbol and the reality the symbol falsely represents. If you want to seriously know the difference it would be good to stop blaming God and/or religions for all the problems in this world. We (mankind) cause those problems and hold the solutions to them. Within each problem lies the solution. Most on this site worship science, and science has brought more death and destruction into this world than any other discipline. But then again it wasn’t science that did the dirt, it was the man/woman who misused it. Look for truth and the truth will set you free.
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Corollary to Gaudere’s Law: “When Lekatt joins a GD thread, all rational discussion ceases.”
Cite?! :eek:
Just an opinion - (BTW thanks for the clarification on the Wailing Wall - I shoulda done a Google search)
- The people (“most”) on this board don’t worship science, They just find more there to place belief in. There are reasons behind things and forseeable outcomes in the Sciences. Religion relies on Faith. Faith without evidence. The Bible (which-ever version) Queran, Torah, etc… have been written by human hands.
Human hands have alway tried to turn the Word of God to their own devices.
God needs to show up for a few minutes and clarify this whole mess;
Say “THIS is the way things should be done, and all those other guys who said different are FULL O’ SHIT!”
There are many who say that this HAS happened. You weren’t around, and aren’t satisfied with their testimony, but you really can’t prove them wrong either.