# When some animals are more equal than others.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 18, 2007, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523 "2007-12-18T23:46:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/21 "2007-12-19T02:44:34Z")

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**Sapo** and **lobstermobster** , you’re both intelligent and witty posters and it’s a shame to see you both dragged into the “I’m being oppressed because I’m not a Charter Member” crying game. I thought you were both better than that.

Back when the board went pay-to-post, there were arguments that we shouldn’t get special titles because newbies would later think that we were getting special treatment. I dismissed that off-hand back then. I thought it was ridiculous on its face. Sadly, it turns out I was wrong.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/22 "2007-12-19T02:45:55Z")

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PS- [This thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=431057&highlight=snarkpit) several months ago, ironically entitled **Read me quick, by morning I will have disappeared!** , lasted for days and had 236 posts. The snarkpit wasn’t just mentioned, it was mentioned throughout it, it was pretty much the primary focus, it was talked about by me and by you and by Carnalk and by Diosa and by practically everybody who dropped by for a look-see, there was name calling all around, and _nobody_ was warned. Perhaps you’ve forgotten it.

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**Author:** ![lobstermobster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobstermobster/32/10033_2.png) [@lobstermobster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobstermobster)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/23 "2007-12-19T02:57:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Hostile Dialect]  
**Sapo** and **lobstermobster** , you’re both intelligent and witty posters and it’s a shame to see you both dragged into the “I’m being oppressed because I’m not a Charter Member” crying game. I thought you were both better than that.

Back when the board went pay-to-post, there were arguments that we shouldn’t get special titles because newbies would later think that we were getting special treatment. I dismissed that off-hand back then. I thought it was ridiculous on its face. Sadly, it turns out I was wrong.  
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I’m not oppressed!

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/24 "2007-12-19T03:06:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Sleeps With Butterflies]  
I’m not speaking for the OP, but isn’t there a rule against bringing stuff to this board that happens somewhere else? Sampiro was hashing, rehashing, bbqing, boiling, broiling, baking, digging up & then burying, denouncing, denigrating, and having hissy fits over things from another board.  
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[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold]  
I thought mentions of \*the board which may not be named \* were also verboden?  
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We do discourage bringing off-board arguments onto the board, but I don’t think that means we should make every reference to the snark sites a warnable offense. Clearly, enough people know about and are interested in these other sites that it’s going to leak over here a little. We’d like to minimize this, of course, but not to the point of strapping on the jackboots and throwing around warnings any time someone obliquely refers to “other places”. (Well, not yet, anyway. ;))

I also think **Sampiro** was wrong to bring up the snark sites in response to **CarnalK** ’s criticism. However, he didn’t exactly start a board war or encourage others to go over there or point to something that was said over there, so I didn’t think his post merited a warning. In the context of his post, the other site was more the history behind their conflict than the source of a new issue, in the same way people who argued at a Dopefest might refer to it in a later Pit fight. Still not great to bring up here, but not quite the same as someone trying to foster interaction between the two sites or bringing a current off-board issue on-board. So that’s why no warning. In retrospect, I probably should have stepped in with a Mod Note early on, but by the time I checked back in the snark discussion was in full swing but (mostly) pretty civil so I took a hands-off approach.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/25 "2007-12-19T03:10:29Z")

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> [@lobstermobster](#):
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> I’m not oppressed!

I must have misread you, then.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/26 "2007-12-19T03:11:07Z")

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PPS- As for me and What Exit?, let it be known that via PMs we went to Weehawken, met on the field, and at the appointed signal we each decided to fire our pistols in the air, honor satisfied on both sides. We cool.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/27 "2007-12-19T03:15:39Z")

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Was Weehawken as nice as you’d heard?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/28 "2007-12-19T03:19:38Z")

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[QUOTE=lobstermobster]  
I wish I had a clique. Sapo you wanna be in it? I like to be mad too.  
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Don’t your little claws go, “Clique! Clique! Clique!” when you snap them?

Or do you still have the rubber bands on?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/29 "2007-12-19T03:25:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Hostile Dialect]  
Was Weehawken as nice as you’d heard?  
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Too touristy with all the Burr groupies. I’m told that Cape May is what Weehawken used to be, but I’ll save finding out for the next time I get pissed off.

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/30 "2007-12-19T03:33:02Z")

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[QUOTE=lobstermobster]  
I’m not oppressed!  
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Wit such as yours can never be oppressed.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/31 "2007-12-19T04:03:04Z")

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[QUOTE=lobstermobster]  
I’m not oppressed!  
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I could oppress you.

I have a 3:30 appointment available tomorrow for the initial consultation. It’s free!

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/32 "2007-12-19T04:08:06Z")

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[QUOTE=jsgoddess]  
I could oppress you.

I have a 3:30 appointment available tomorrow for the initial consultation. It’s free!  
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Suuure, Free. I know this scam. You can’t fool me. I’m a crafty consumer.

The initial consult is free, then you get her with the books and tapes and follow-up courses and the RETREATS!

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/33 "2007-12-19T04:11:18Z")

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[QUOTE=jsgoddess]  
I could oppress you.

I have a 3:30 appointment available tomorrow for the initial consultation. It’s free!  
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Oh, she really could. I had the 11pm appointment for today, and she’s been toiling away at it. 😃

LM, you can be in my clique. You, me, and Sapo, probably a few other bitches. Think of a snappy name and draw a Paint picture. Our motto can be “Fuck off and give me a hug.” We can put it in our sigs and we’ll be on our way.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/34 "2007-12-19T04:12:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Sierra Indigo]  
Suuure, Free. I know this scam. You can’t fool me. I’m a crafty consumer.

The initial consult is free, then you get her with the books and tapes and follow-up courses and the RETREATS!  
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You wound me. You do.

Tapes?

Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![lobstermobster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobstermobster/32/10033_2.png) [@lobstermobster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobstermobster)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/35 "2007-12-19T04:43:52Z")

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[QUOTE=jsgoddess]  
I could oppress you.

I have a 3:30 appointment available tomorrow for the initial consultation. It’s free!  
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Okay so I get this evite to a party in Nashville hosted by this girl I went to high school with and haven’t seen since HS graduation. Well it wasn’t just one party there were several “parties” and we were supposed to respond in our RSVP which one we would be attending. I guess Miss Fancybottom hadn’t gotten the memo that I don’t live in Nashville anymore. I notice the guest list includes several people from HS I do still talk to.

So anyways she is HELPING US OUT by giving us an opportunity to load up on stocking stuffers by presenting a fantastic variety of Arbonne products!!!

First of all, we’re 24 years old, why the fuck would I need stocking stuffers? I am not in the stocking stuffing stage of my life. Second of all, what a bitch hitting me up out of no where when I clearly haven’t spoken to this person in years.

So I respond to the evite that I won’t be attending and leave the comment “I live in California but good luck with your pyramid scheme”

She sends me this email first bitching me out for saying something rude in a public space where she is trying to scam on her guests/friends/targets.

So dopers, what say you? was i being rude?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/36 "2007-12-19T04:48:31Z")

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[QUOTE=lobstermobster]  
So dopers, what say you? was i being rude?  
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Did you offer her food thrice before this? 'Cause otherwise, no. 😃 \<---- See? The oppression has begun, peasant!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/37 "2007-12-19T05:16:42Z")

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“Help! Help! I’m being oppressed!”

Someone had to say it.

On topic - yeah, I think **Opal** was over the line. I have no opinion on the **Sampiro** mess because, well, I have better things to do than read that trainwreck. I’ll say one thing though, **Sapo** , I think oldtimers do get passes that n00bs don’t get, but my guess is that is because the mods are familiar with the oldtimers, and they have a feel for their personalities. An old-timer who has 10,000 good posts and then posts one borderline post isn’t going to get the same hand-slapping as a n00b who comes in both guns blazing. Or not. Maybe they just throw darts at a dartboard to decide who gets a warning and who doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![lobstermobster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobstermobster/32/10033_2.png) [@lobstermobster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobstermobster)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/38 "2007-12-19T05:53:04Z")

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[QUOTE=jsgoddess]  
Did you offer her food thrice before this? 'Cause otherwise, no. 😃 \<---- See? The oppression has begun, peasant!  
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Is there a way I can formally start the paper work to have that green asshole banned? How many signatures would I need to get this taken seriously?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/39 "2007-12-19T06:09:10Z")

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I like that green asshole. He’s inviting you in to share a joke. It’s a welcoming smilie. And you want to get rid of him? Aww…  
And with Christmas just around the corner, to boot!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-some-animals-are-more-equal-than-others/430523/40 "2007-12-19T06:28:26Z")

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No, I don’t believe there is such a process. That being the case, your second question is pretty much unanswerable.

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