# When someone mentions, "Harvard of the South"...

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 2, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324 "2013-05-02T16:46:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
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… which school comes to mind first?

I was thinking of making this a poll, but I didn’t want to limit the options.

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**Author:** ![Motorgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Motorgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motorgirl)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/2 "2013-05-02T16:48:01Z")

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Nothing came immediately to mind, but after a tiny bit of thought, maybe

William & Mary?

Edited to spoiler my thought, so as to not unduly influence others.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/3 "2013-05-02T16:49:12Z")

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I’d say Vanderbilt

> [@Motorgirl](#):
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> Nothing came immediately to mind, but after a tiny bit of thought, maybe
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> William & Mary?
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> Edited to spoiler my thought, so as to not unduly influence others.

Bless your heart.

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For me, it’s definitely Rice University. But I am biased.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/5 "2013-05-02T16:54:58Z")

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I’ve heard Emory people claim it.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/6 "2013-05-02T17:01:34Z")

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Don’t really have a strong reaction to it at all. I have pretty good instinctive answers for the Midwest and West, but not the South.

With the South, after consideration, I’d say either…

Duke or Vanderbilt.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/7 "2013-05-02T17:10:06Z")

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I usually hear “X of the south” in reference to Rice.

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No evaluation but I’ve heard a lot of University of Virginia people claim that title.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/9 "2013-05-02T17:16:11Z")

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It is Vanderbilt. Vandy was specifically endowed to be a university “of the South” after the War, and in any event the phrase is long-established in Nashville. Using it for another school is saying, “this is more like Harvard than Vanderbilt is.”

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/10 "2013-05-02T17:16:34Z")

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> [@tim-n-va](#):
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> No evaluation but I’ve heard a lot of University of Virginia people claim that title.

It’s a public school.

I would say Vanderbilt as well. Strong research and all.

Rice? I guess Houston is technically the South, but it’s not my first though.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/11 "2013-05-02T17:21:51Z")

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Without reading anybody’s responses, my first thought was the University of Virginia.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/12 "2013-05-02T17:29:08Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> It’s a public school.

Illinois, Michigan, Virginia, Texas and others are considered Public Ivies, the state sponsored equivalents to Harvard, Yale etc.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/13 "2013-05-02T17:57:03Z")

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William & Mary, duh.

But the better nickname is "alma mater of a nation. "

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/14 "2013-05-02T17:57:04Z")

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[Davidson.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davidson_College)

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/15 "2013-05-02T17:58:10Z")

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Duplicate

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Further south.

_Don’t_ make me say it.

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I’ve heard this about Tulane.

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> … which school comes to mind first?
> 
> I was thinking of making this a poll, but I didn’t want to limit the options.

Tulane.

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**Author:** ![ReticulatingSplines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@ReticulatingSplines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReticulatingSplines)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/19 "2013-05-02T18:10:43Z")

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> [@ReticulatingSplines](#):
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> Bless your heart.

By the way, I just want to be clear that I didn’t mean this pejoratively. I attended William & Mary.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-someone-mentions-harvard-of-the-south/657324/20 "2013-05-02T18:13:13Z")

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Duke is what came to mind, for no reason I can name.

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