Well in grown up land, war can be justified by both sides. Doesn’t mean YOU have to agree with both sides.
That’s not a pro war sentiment, that’s just the way the world and history works.
So should Great Britain have just said “All right, nice knowing you.” when the American colonies (whose citizens weren’t even completely FOR rebellion in the first place) declared independence? How does that make any sense from Englands side?
Imagine that you were an English citizen. You would be forced to fight, and risk your life for this cause. Would that be something you would interested in? I sure wouldnt.
Honestly now. That was a pure accident. As for the WWot West, yeah that was a case of the Designated Villain. She didn’t even do anything to avenge her sister’s death, and she could legitimately claim the ruby slippers as being her property, as the next of kin of the Witch of the East. Still, I’d lay the blame down in front of the Wizard of Oz. He blackmailed a child into killing one of his rivals, and he didn’t even have the means to make good on his promises. Yet this is all handwaved away. Glinda doesn’t escape blame either. She put the ruby slippers on Dorothy’s feet, and made it so Dorothy couldn’t take them off. This was done specifically so Dorothy wouldn’t just give the slippers to the witch to avoid any trouble with her. And for all this, we never really find out why the slippers are so damned important. What would have happened if the Witch of the West had gotten them? The Witch of the East had owned them for who-knows-how-long, so they couldn’t be as powerful as all of that.
I see your point, but I’d consider this to be a case of irony. The poor, downtrodden people that Rambo was trying to help turned out to be nasty bastards who we really should have left under the Soviet boot.
There’s The Mosquito Coast. Sure, he was a tad obsessive in the beginning, but you were rooting or him. By the end, you wanted to drown his ass in the Amazon.
Also, I love The Fly (Cronenberg version) because by the end, Seth becomes the bad guy (bad fly?), and Stathis (who was a self-serving, womanizing dick at the beginning) comes in at the end (sacrificing his foot and hand) to save the day. A nice switch-er-oo between the “Hero” and the “Villain”.
Particularly since a bunch of the rebellion leaders were themselves smugglers and other forms of criminals… one interpretation of the Boston Tea Party wasn’t that they objected that strongly to the tax on tea, it was that they had warehouses full of smuggled tea they couldn’t sell without tax stamps on it… so they drowned all the legal tea, and suddenly they had a market for black-market tea.
Whoops. Looks like I had it backward. The East India Company got permission to import tea without paying tax on it, and sell it for lower than the North American importers, who had paid tax on their tea. So, the rebels were still destroying legally-imported tea, but rather than convincing people to buy illegally-imported tea, they were trying to make them buy their own more expensive but legally-imported tea.
In one episode the crew responsible for beaming down a pair of redshirts were fooled (by a psychic) into dumping them into space instead of a planet’s surface. Its one of those episodes where Kirk actually seems to give a damn about them