# When Trump dies, will he lie in state? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 3, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557 "2023-09-03T21:02:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/101 "2023-09-06T20:41:23Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Sure, he can lie in state somewhere, but _not in the capitol building_. Again, respect the office irregardless of the man. But if he does lie in state, I’m sure it would be at Mar Largo and not the Capitol. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/102 "2023-09-06T20:42:28Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > Well, yes, that’s the joke. Apparently first made by Yogi Berra. [Misattributed](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Yogi_Berra#Misattributed). Earliest known use, 1911. Berra was born 1925. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/103 "2023-09-06T20:45:23Z")
Am I a Bad Person for hoping that when Trump finally kicks off, it’s about 12 hours after someone much more important and famous around the world does, like the Pope? (In no way am I wishing ill of the Pontiff. I just needed an example of someone whose death would put all of Trump’s observances in the deep, dark shade.) Just so future generations would say “Oh, yeah. he died too.” ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/104 "2023-09-06T20:58:12Z")
[It has happened a few times.](https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/top-10-deaths-of-famous-people-eclipsed-by-deaths-of-even-more-famous-people-b1815899.html) However, I’m pretty sure that Trump’s death will eclipse anyone who dies the same day. King Charles III should try not to die at that time. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/105 "2023-09-06T21:09:32Z")
I feel that way about OJ Simpson. For those of you who are old enough to remember the mid 1990s, you will know that THAT could be, ahem, interesting. My first thought when I heard about the Oklahoma City bombing, on “All Things Considered” while driving home from work in that pre-Internet era, was, “So, how long does this knock OJ off the top of the news?” The answer? Two days. Around that time, Newsweek addressed the fact that the sequestered jurors were having their media censored to remove OJ references, and someone wrote them a letter asking where he could subscribe to that service. ---
**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/106 "2023-09-06T21:13:12Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Again, respect the office irregardless of the man I disagree. (Both the sentiment, and the word “irregardless”). Trump was an _insurrectionist_; that negates his presidency. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/107 "2023-09-06T21:23:39Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > [Misattributed](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Yogi_Berra#Misattributed). Earliest known use, 1911. Berra was born 1925. Some of Berra’s obscure pop culture quotes were repeated by others before Berra said them first. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/108 "2023-09-06T21:27:45Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Some of Berra’s obscure pop culture quotes were repeated by others before Berra said them first. He really didn’t say everything he said. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/109 "2023-09-06T21:48:23Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > But if he does lie in state, I’m sure it would be at Mar Largo and not the Capitol That would be called “lying in repose”. If he lies in a state building (any) _with a military honor guard_, that would be “lying in state”. [Cite.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lying_in_state#United_States) In other words, if they want to prop his casket up at MAL, that wouldn’t be lying in state. That would be a corpse on a pedestal. I mean, who’s going to stop them? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/110 "2023-09-06T22:33:02Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > In other words, if they want to prop his casket up at MAL, that wouldn’t be lying in state. Trump would still call it “lying in state” because it sounds more impressive. (Yes, Trump will be dead at the time, but I wouldn’t be surprised if his directives say he wants to lie in state at Mar-A-Lago.) ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/111 "2023-09-06T23:57:06Z")
Plus they can charge the rubes viewing rights at Mar-a-Lardo. Can you imagine the gift grift shop they’ll have to pass through to escape. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/112 "2023-09-07T00:36:41Z")
> [@Karen\_Lingel](#): > > > [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > > > Again, respect the office irregardless of the man > > I disagree. (Both the sentiment, and the word “irregardless”). Trump was an _insurrectionist_; that negates his presidency. This. I can’t in good conscience show trump more respect in connection with the presidency than he showed to the presidency himself. They should dump the casket in a sewage lagoon to steep in there for a month or two before fishing it out and dumping it somewhere in the ocean. Just like DoD did with Osama bin Laden, it’s important to not provide a rallying site for people who are champions of evil. Treat them with stately contempt and let their body be gone forever. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/113 "2023-09-07T00:39:05Z")
I endorse this post. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/114 "2023-09-08T00:09:12Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > [It has happened a few times.](https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/top-10-deaths-of-famous-people-eclipsed-by-deaths-of-even-more-famous-people-b1815899.html) > > However, I’m pretty sure that Trump’s death will eclipse anyone who dies the same day. King Charles III should try not to die at that time. What if on the same day as Trump’s demise Megan Markle catches Harry and William in bed having a threesome with Taylor Swift and kills all three of them in a fit of rage? ….that MIGHT eclipse Trump’s death. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/115 "2023-09-08T00:11:14Z")
Nope. Two very different audiences for those events. One group reads People, the other watches Fox & hangs out on NewsMax. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/116 "2023-09-08T02:30:41Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > What if on the same day as Trump’s demise Megan Markle catches Harry and William in bed having a threesome with Taylor Swift and kills all three of them in a fit of rage? ….that MIGHT eclipse Trump’s death. Only if someone recorded it on their iPhone. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/117 "2023-09-10T01:38:44Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > What if on the same day as Trump’s demise Megan Markle catches Harry and William in bed having a threesome with Taylor Swift and kills all three of them in a fit of rage? Have you been reading my letters to Santa?! ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/118 "2023-09-10T17:00:12Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > How about a Rotunda\*-based My Pillow Funeral Pyre. Seems like we haven’t had one of those in far too long. Problem with that, once lit it would have to be allowed to burn itself out; the grease-fed flames wouldn’t know when to quit. And think of the poor Rotunda itself, that elderly masonry couldn’t possibly survive. Instead, after the round-and-round the U S funeral procession, the “Family” (I love using that term, so RICO, y’know) will rent the most commodious (another applicable term) open-air stadium available (owner stiffed - yet another useful word - later) and sell tickets to the yugest outdoor cremation EVAH! The bier will be a layer of pillows, someone else’s, for comfort, atop a several-layer pile of truck tires (a la Pol Pot). The heat will be so intense there will be kevlar suits available, for an extra fee (you saw that one coming) and cold beer and soft drinks will be available for a ton of cash. After the flames die down - hours later - worshipers will be purchasing ashes in little gold (thin plating, or more likely, lacquer) reliquaries; pieces of the steel belts will be extra. Later someone will calculate that the total weight of ashes sold was over 800 pounds, and someone else will point to the large stack of fertilizer sacks in the visitor’s dugout. A good time will have been had by all, especially those of us who don’t attend. Dan ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/119 "2023-09-10T19:29:09Z")
Anyone who wants to throw themselves on the pyre would be welcome to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-trump-dies-will-he-lie-in-state/989557/120 "2023-09-10T22:38:07Z")
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