# When two spiteful sluts attack some of the Dopers I respect most, I get angry... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 12, 2002, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198 "2002-04-12T09:55:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Billy\_Rubin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billy_rubin/32/3622_2.png) [@Billy\_Rubin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billy_Rubin)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/41 "2002-04-12T14:24:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\* In the “bear” community, having ample proportions is an asset and it’s the thin guys who don’t get laid (making for some sad little “otters.”) \*\* Wait, bear, you’re telling me that there’s somewhere where fat guys can get laid because of the way we look? Cite? Directions? Phone numbers? B. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Blunty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Captain\_Blunty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Blunty)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/42 "2002-04-12T14:30:11Z")
Ok, so I used “fat”, as an insult. That was wrong of me, but I was angry at the time I posted the rant. I wasn’t attacking fat people in general. If you had read my rant carefully enough you would have seen that his obesity wasn’t the issue. It was a symptom of his behaviour, and his behaviour was what I was critising. And what gives you the right to imply that I am skinny and that I am bulimic? That I’m a slut and a stupid slut at that? What about all those bulimic girls who would be offended by your comments? What about all the “scrawny,” Dopers that would be offended? Why is it that you are allowed to use those insults, but I can’t even use the word “fat” once without someone like you jumping on me? I don’t deserve all the slander. You don’t even know me. You base all of your opinions of me on one post and you think that makes you an expert on how I think. Give it up already. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/43 "2002-04-12T14:30:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by cazzle \* > \*\*Don’t get paranoid, **Gary** - this isn’t a personal attack on you, it just happens that you’re raising points that I want to challenge - you seem like a nice bloke to me! \*\* Erm, cazzle, I didn’t think it was a personal attack, and similarly you seem like a decent bloke to me - I really do just get annoyed that some words seem to get leapt on with real gusto, and two fairly innocuous rants should receive the sort of vitriol that the OP has gone for. There’s also the sheer unfoundedness of this rant, such as when Redboss claims that > [@](#): > > **two pursed-mouth, peevish harpies detail their horror of fat people** But they don’t. One of them is about annoyance at greed (i.e. taking more than a fair share of communal snacks) and the other is about sloth (boy who lounges around, won’t get a job, etc). I can see justification for both rants. And how he arrives at the conclusion that the two people are “sluts”, “harpies”, “tarts” and so on I really would like to know. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/44 "2002-04-12T14:30:55Z")
> [@](#): > > Wait, bear, you’re telling me that there’s somewhere where fat guys can get laid because of the way we look? Cite? Directions? Phone numbers? Well, you have to settle for having sex with men, but yeah, bears are considered to be hot. A bear is a large gay man with body hair and/or facial hair. Drop by the DC Eagle, and you will be cruised right, left, and center ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/45 "2002-04-12T14:34:01Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t deserve all the slander. You don’t even know me. You base all of your opinions of me on one post and you think that makes you an expert on how I think. That is ]i]soooo\* Jerry Springer: “You \*%^#s don't know me. Whatever! I'll do what I %%& want!” We know you from your post, which was hateful and mean-spirited, so shut up and sit down! I’ll be back for a Final Thought. ---
**Author:** ![Billy\_Rubin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billy_rubin/32/3622_2.png) [@Billy\_Rubin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billy_Rubin)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/46 "2002-04-12T14:36:06Z")
Gobear, I’ve always said; don’t knock it till you’ve tried it. LOL! Hey, I’d do it just to be the center of attention for a change!!after 42 years of being a social misfit, it’d be nice to be wanted by anyone… Sorry for the hijack, and thanks for the humor, you may now proceed with your regularly scheduled thread. b. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/47 "2002-04-12T14:39:38Z")
> [@](#): > > Hey, I’d do it just to be the center of attention for a change!!after 42 years of being a social misfit, it’d be nice to be wanted by anyone… Just stay away from the Ringbearer. Sam will kill you if you try anthing! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Blunty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Captain\_Blunty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Blunty)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/48 "2002-04-12T14:42:55Z")
So you’re an expert on me now **Gobear**? From one thread? You want a mean spirited thread? Take a good long look at this one. ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/49 "2002-04-12T14:45:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by reprise \* > \*\*Remind me to buy you a beer or twelve next time you’re in Sydney **Redboss** - you’ve earned it. 🙂 \*\* One beer, fine. But twelve? Man, that will go right to his hips! Sua ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/50 "2002-04-12T14:49:21Z")
> [@](#): > > So you’re an expert on me now Gobear ? From one thread? Yes. You’re new here, so I’ll explain. On a message board, all we have to go on are your posts. The content of what you write is who you are. You might be a person of shining virtue who is loved by all out in the meat world, but in here, you are pixels on a screen. If you write funny posts, you will be considered funny. If you write wise and discerning posts, you will be thought wise and discerning. And if you write hateful posts… Get it? We don’t need to know you in the real world to judge you. Just the content of what you write. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/51 "2002-04-12T14:51:07Z")
> [@](#): > > One beer, fine. But twelve? Man, that will go right to his hips! and then his lips wil go to your hips! ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Blunty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Captain\_Blunty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Blunty)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/52 "2002-04-12T14:54:46Z")
So use the word “fat” and you’re a spiteful and hateful person? Using the words, “slut” and “scrawny” and “stupid” makes you a hero? I think not. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/53 "2002-04-12T15:03:20Z")
I think Gary Kumquat is exactly right. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/54 "2002-04-12T15:07:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MusicMistress \* > I think not. This, you’ve already proven. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Blunty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Captain\_Blunty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Blunty)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/55 "2002-04-12T15:10:22Z")
And your insulting me proves that you do. I guess in your opinion it does, but just don’t call me fat. ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/56 "2002-04-12T15:26:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Redboss \* > \*\* > > **Don’t use “fat” as a term of insult here!**. > > In case I didn’t make that clear, > > **Don’t use “fat” as a term of insult here!**. > > \*\* You have a fat mouth… I mean BIG, sheesh, where did that come from. D&R ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/57 "2002-04-12T15:27:20Z")
Sez Redboss: “Don’t use ‘fat’ as an insult here.” Very good point to make I think. Certain insults are already intolerable here, such as the aforementioned fag word…calling someone else a fag doesn’t reveal underlying contempt? What if this person is gay, is it then insulting? Yes, because if you’re using it you’re implying that it’s a bad thing. Same with ‘fat.’ A big tip-off is calling someone “fatty” instead of “selfish pig” which is obviously more appropriate. Using the word advertises the feeling you have toward it in the same way that "goat-felcher’ does…“ewwww.” So why advertise it? Expecting nobody to comment on a word like “fatty” is way too much to ask, especially here. I’d fully expect to get insulted in return. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/58 "2002-04-12T15:33:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MusicMistress \* > \*\*And your insulting me proves that you do. I guess in your opinion it does, but just don’t call me fat. \*\* This always confuses me. As you’ve done me no wrong, I have no cause to insult you, but if I did and I chose to insult you I would probably choose an insult that was reflective of the cause of my annger. Or, I might just let the whole thing go. That seems a reasonable and appropriate way to handle things. Polite even. However, you don’t have any right to tell people what they can and can’t say. I find it rude that you would presume to censor me or someone else. How they choose to exercise what good taste and courtesy they have, or the lack of it is really up to them. Their is no specific property of being overweight that gets you to tell other people what they may or may not do. “Fat” is not granted an exemption, any more than any other disparaging adjective. ---
**Author:** ![BottledBlondJeanie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@BottledBlondJeanie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BottledBlondJeanie)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/59 "2002-04-12T15:40:58Z")
\*\* Redboss \*\* I don’t think that I used the term “fat” as an insult in my thread. Not the most scintillating and pointed complaint, but my whole point was he was being an ass and somehow he ended up using his weight as a weapon. Fat is not an insult I use, there are many more exciting ones to use!! Fat can be descriptive and if using it as such makes someone feel uncomfortable then I think it’s their problem not mine. I tried to set the thread up to indicate that I DON’T see fat as bad…taking too much and not bieng considerate is…threatening me because you are sensitive about it is bad. Calling me a “slut” or whatever is just ridiculous…you don’t know me at all and is completely false. Calling him greedy and saying he didn’t need all those damn donuts is accurate. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198/60 "2002-04-12T16:05:40Z")
> [@](#): > > Fact is, around the SDMB, you can insult people about all manner of things: ugliness, stupidity, rudness, smelliness, dirtiness, etc. but if you even mention their weight, KABOOM someone will jump on you. Exactly, and it is fucking aggrivating. > [@](#): > > Believe me, I throw words like stupid, slut and even fat around when I’m trying to insult someone - but must of us do, without any thought about what we’re actually saying. To then pick on a couple of people for one particular word when we all have done similar is wrong. ding-ding-ding-ding-ding! We have a winner. Fat people (speaking as one of you), get over yourselves. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-two-spiteful-sluts-attack-some-of-the-dopers-i-respect-most-i-get-angry/103198.md?page=4)