# When Ugly Girls Read

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 22, 2001, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909 "2001-10-22T18:33:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/21 "2001-10-22T19:52:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by obfusciatrist \*  
> **I’m an ugly man if you want to properly categorize me in your data.**

Would you be offended if I disagreed with you?

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**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/22 "2001-10-22T20:10:39Z")

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I’m sure it wasn’t the OP’s intention that this should turn into a flirt thread so quickly. I’m glad I opened it, though, because I’ve been able to confirm my long-standing suspicion that **Nacho4Sara** is a babe 😃

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/23 "2001-10-22T20:16:05Z")

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I’m as ugly as a bag of rocks. And I read Harlequins. I guess your poll is right, you misinformed lump of unsmoked crack. Twenty years in bookstores and libraries and all you’ve learned is how to judge people by their looks and the books they read?

Go back to the bookstore and read a book instead of checking out the meat.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/24 "2001-10-22T20:54:55Z")

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Can I change my post to what **Biggirl** said?

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**Author:** ![Kamandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5daacb/32.png) [@Kamandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamandi)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/25 "2001-10-22T20:55:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> \*\*I’m as ugly as a bag of rocks. And I read Harlequins. I guess your poll is right, you misinformed lump of unsmoked crack. Twenty years in bookstores and libraries and all you’ve learned is how to judge people by their looks and the books they read?
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> Go back to the bookstore and read a book instead of checking out the meat. \*\*

_This_ is why I read the Pit. Sing it Sister!

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**Author:** ![Habib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/71e660/32.png) [@Habib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habib)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/26 "2001-10-22T21:04:20Z")

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Hi, I’m looking for a girl looking for a good time. Must be over 18 years old. I’m not too picky (please, not hideous though). I’m a 5’11" Arab male. I speak fluent English. I’m not a terrorist. Please feel free to contact me.

Habib

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**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/27 "2001-10-22T21:13:40Z")

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What I’m worried about is if he was asking if ugly girls read harlequins or if ugly girls are the only ones that read at all.

I’m probably totally misreading it though.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/28 "2001-10-22T21:29:11Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \*  
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> Would you be offended if I disagreed with you? \*\*

No I wouldn’t be offended, but I wouldn’t believe you correct, either.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/29 "2001-10-22T21:38:50Z")

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I know a very attractive (and also very intelligent) woman who is unashamed to admit to reading them; though to the best of my knowledge not in public. To risk cluttering up this mis-posted poll / flirt thread / TMI warehouse (_never?_) with a hypothesis: woman are less visual in what arouses them than men, and may get more out of being immersed in a story (however thin) that leads to eroticism. Not surprising then, that many enjoy a romance novel while most men prefer a nice glossy magazine.

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**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/30 "2001-10-22T21:40:21Z")

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I believe that **Habib** has made the most salient point yet.

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**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/31 "2001-10-22T21:47:00Z")

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I worked in a library for about 4 years during high school, and we have harlequins as honorbacks (you borrow 'em, no due date, it’s on your honor to bring 'em back). FWIW, the harlequins were borrowed pretty much exclusively by middle aged women of varying levels of attractiveness.

Before you add this to your data, I should probably tell you that that demographic made up about 40-50% of our total patronage. Again, FWIW.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/32 "2001-10-22T21:59:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Amazing Magic-Gro Monster \*  
> **That said, as an afficianado of used book stores, I’ve noticed an awful lot of shelf space is devoted to these Lavender-pink curley-script foil-embossed oiled-up-bicep slightly-parted-lips books. so _somebody_ has to be to be reading them.**

When I worked in a used book store, we wouldn’t even take them from people for free. Nobody bought the Harlequins and their ilk–ever! The few that came into the store accidentally (people would sometimes just “donate” boxes of books–they would drop them and run!) didn’t sell even for 50 cents. WAG–I think maybe Harlequin-type readers often belong to book clubs, so they get them automatically, and they’ve read them all already, so they don’t want to buy them used.

The “better” romances, like Nora Roberts, Johanna Lindsey, etc. did sell, but not especially well.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Onimous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@Ann\_Onimous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Onimous)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/33 "2001-10-22T22:17:35Z")

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My mother-in-law reads them. And she is one of the most beautiful women I’ve ever met, both inside and out.

Me, OTOH, despise the things. And I’m ugly. So there.

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/34 "2001-10-22T22:22:23Z")

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Okay. If ugly ladies read romance novels, for mild eroticism – how about the out-and-out porn readers/oglers?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/35 "2001-10-22T22:48:01Z")

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i haven’t seen anyone, regardless of appearance, read one of these pieces of shit.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/36 "2001-10-22T22:54:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Habib \*  
> \*\*Hi, I’m looking for a girl looking for a good time. Must be over 18 years old. I’m not too picky (please, not hideous though). I’m a 5’11" Arab male. I speak fluent English. I’m not a terrorist. Please feel free to contact me.
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> Habib \*\*

Ummm…and your point is?

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/37 "2001-10-22T23:08:15Z")

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I believe that his point is he is looking for a mildly desparate woman and that a thread in which several women admit to reading romance novels would be a good place to find such women. (Not saying I agree, just that is how I interpret his message.)

Personally, I doubt even a desparate woman would go out with a guy that smells so strongly of socks.

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/38 "2001-10-22T23:10:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*(Reasonably attractive female-NEVER gotten any :() \*\*

I will not be able to sleep at night until this situation is remedied.  
Preferably by me.  
Just say when and where and I’ll be all over you - er, it - I mean the situation; I’ll be on top of it. Aw hell, you know what I mean right? I’m here to help.

And something tells me we’ll be waiting a while for **Bossk** to expand on his statements. Looks like a hit & run to me. He started [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=94021) not too long ago. Although he had responses to the subject of his OP, he instead chose to make a personal attack on **SPOOFE** and ignore all else. When I pointed that out, he made a similar attack on me and hasn’t been back to that thread to discuss the subject he brought up in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/39 "2001-10-22T23:23:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> \*\*I’m as ugly as a bag of rocks. \*\*

Hey, now. I met you face to face. And, eyes to eyes since once we gazed into each other’s eyes, the conversation became something else entirely. You, shut yer piehole and let the boys here speak up on your behalf, got that?

You just wait till I get ahold of you at the NY Dopefest in January. 🆒

Aside from correcting your initial statement, I agree 110% with your thoughts here.

Cartooniverse

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/40 "2001-10-22T23:23:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ice Wolf \*  
> \*\*Okay. If ugly ladies read romance novels, for mild eroticism – how about the out-and-out porn readers/oglers? \*\*

Forget that, what about porn **writers**?

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