# When Ugly Girls Read

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 22, 2001, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909 "2001-10-22T18:33:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tisiphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tisiphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tisiphone)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/41 "2001-10-22T23:46:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ice Wolf \*  
> \*\*Okay. If ugly ladies read romance novels, for mild eroticism – how about the out-and-out porn readers/oglers? \*\*

**Mild** eroticism?

Boy, are you ever reading the wrong ones. It has entertained me for years that the little old ladies that picket 7-11 for carrying Playboy go home and read The Cleavage and the Bulge for kicks.

Some of those scenes are _smokin’_!

And I read them.

In public.

And I am not ugly. I currently refuse, however, to provide a cite. I wanna show up at a Dopefest and have everybody wonder who the hell I am. Maybe I’ll be mistaken for somebody cool…

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**Author:** ![Bossk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@Bossk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bossk)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/42 "2001-10-22T23:46:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Crunchy Frog \*  
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> And something tells me we’ll be waiting a while for **Bossk** to expand on his statements. Looks like a hit & run to me. He started [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=94021) not too long ago. Although he had responses to the subject of his OP, he instead chose to make a personal attack on **SPOOFE** and ignore all else. When I pointed that out, he made a similar attack on me and hasn’t been back to that thread to discuss the subject he brought up in the first place. \*\*

No one likes a tattletale, Cindy.

Gee, I wasn’t aware I had contractual obligations to watch my OP like a sick baby. Thanks for the heads up, Crunchy. I shudder to think of what this board would become without hall monitors like you around.

From what I gathered, people of all kinds read romance novels, but mostly in private shame, like masturbation. What more do you want me to say?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/43 "2001-10-22T23:51:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Crunchy Frog \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> > \*\*(Reasonably attractive female-NEVER gotten any :() \*\*
> 
> I will not be able to sleep at night until this situation is remedied.  
> Preferably by me.  
> Just say when and where and I’ll be all over you - er, it - I mean the situation; I’ll be on top of it. Aw hell, you know what I mean right? I’m here to help.
> 
> \*\*

Hey, I NEVER turn down anyone who wants to ‘help’…

😉

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/44 "2001-10-23T00:13:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bossk \*  
> **No one likes a tattletale, Cindy.**

Just letting people know what they’re dealing with.

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> **Gee, I wasn’t aware I had contractual obligations to watch my OP like a sick baby. Thanks for the heads up, Crunchy. I shudder to think of what this board would become without hall monitors like you around.**

Of course there aren’t any contractual obligations, but statements are expected to be backed up. I’ve only seen you in two threads, this one and the one I linked to. In the linked thread, you did as I said above - ignored responses on the subject to launch a lame personal attack. You’re doing it again here, ignoring 30+ other responses to single me out by calling me “Cindy” (I mean c’mon - what is that supposed to be anyway, an attack on my masculinity or something?) and childish accusations of me being a “tattletale” and “hall monitor” when I haven’t said anything about you personally. You sound like a fucking 3rd grader, but a highly precocious 3rd grader who knows phrases like “sociological implications.”

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> \*\*From what I gathered, people of all kinds read romance novels, but mostly in private shame, like masturbation. What more do you want me to say? \*\*

Nice to see you back on subject. What would I like you to say? How about explaining what you meant by:

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> \*\*Has anyone anywhere since history began ever seen an attractive woman reading a Harlequin-style romance novel?
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> Twenty years in bookstores, coffee shops, libraries, parks, etc. I’ve never seen it. What are the sociological implications?\*\*

Are you suggesting only ugly women read romance novels? It certainly seems that way from the thread title and the quote above. You’re saying in the OP you’ve never seen an attractive woman reading a romance novel and that this implies something about society. What are you getting at? Do you have a point? Asking if people have seen attractive women reading romance novels is a poll (which belong in IMHO, as has already been pointed out so why did you go straight to th ePit with this?) but suggesting there’s sociological implications hints that you may have more to say. So what is it, if anything?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/45 "2001-10-23T00:52:50Z")

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The “Cindy” part I think comes from Cindy Brady-in the movie, Mike and Carol are always saying, “Cindy, no one likes a tattletell!”

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/46 "2001-10-23T00:53:10Z")

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Bossk: There may not be any contractual obligations, but somebody who names himself after an [obscure](http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/bossk/) [reptilian](http://people.a2000.nl/tvdbrink/bossk.html) [bounty](http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/9216/bossk.htm) [hunter](http://www.starwarssource.net/Characters/Bossk/bossk.php) and posts vaguely misogynistic discussion topics may have emotional issues that require further exploration. I predict your tenure on these boards will be stormy, high-profile, and brief, and then quickly forgotten.  
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I hereby nominate myself for a Congressional Medal of Geekiness for being the first to publicly admit recognizing the name.  
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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/47 "2001-10-23T01:07:58Z")

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> _Orig. by tisiphone_  
> Mild eroticism?
> 
> Boy, are you ever reading the wrong ones. It has entertained me for years that the little old ladies that picket 7-11 for carrying Playboy go home and read The Cleavage and the Bulge for kicks.
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> Some of those scenes are smokin’!

Yes … well … I wasn’t _exactly_ going to admit that I know that in public, okay? (Eep! I think I just did!) :eek:

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/48 "2001-10-23T01:10:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
> **I hereby nominate myself for a Congressional Medal of Geekiness for being the first to publicly admit recognizing the name.**

You’re not the first that I know of. It was mentioned in the thread I linked to.

And **Guin** - I never watched too much Brady Bunch, so I wouldn’t have gotten that reference.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/49 "2001-10-23T01:10:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
> **I hereby nominate myself for a Congressional Medal of Geekiness for being the first to publicly admit recognizing the name.**

I hate to be the guy to fuck up your nomination, but …

From the thread which **Crunchy** linked:

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> _Originally posted by Miller_  
> **Sez the guy who named himself after a bounty hunter in Star Wars.**

Sorry Charlie. Hey, there’s always Prom Queen.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/50 "2001-10-23T01:15:57Z")

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Admittedly, it was the movie, which was actually quite funny.

Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase-“something suddenly came UP!” 😉

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**Author:** ![Kayeby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@Kayeby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kayeby)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/51 "2001-10-23T01:30:53Z")

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> _Originally posted by Bossk \*  
> From what I gathered, people of all kinds read romance novels, but mostly in private shame, like masturbation._\*

I masturbate with _pride_. 😃

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/52 "2001-10-23T02:07:34Z")

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Does that mean we can all watch?

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**Author:** ![Searching\_For\_Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Searching\_For\_Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Searching_For_Truth)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/53 "2001-10-23T02:21:20Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Kayeby \*  
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> _Originally posted by Bossk \*  
> From what I gathered, people of all kinds read romance novels, but mostly in private shame, like masturbation._\*

Hahaha. Oh MY. My mother, a devout Christian and intelligent, wonderful woman has a secret thing for trashy romance novels. When my sister and I make fun of her she just rolls her eyes and goes back to reading. She avoids eye contact when she checks out her stacks of Harlequins and Harlequin spinoffs from the library.

Not that I’ve ever read them. At all. Not even read the summaries on the back…

[sub]Ok, mebbe I’ve read a couple, but ONLY for the sex scenes…

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**Author:** ![Kayeby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@Kayeby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kayeby)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/54 "2001-10-23T02:48:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \*  
> \*\*Does that mean we can all watch? \*\*

Sure! Tickets at the door. First in, best dressed. Bring your spouses and children - it’ll be a fun day out for the whole family!

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/55 "2001-10-23T02:53:19Z")

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> _Originally posted by Bossk \*  
> From what I gathered, people of all kinds read romance novels, but mostly in private shame, like masturbation._\*

Haven’t checked out my website, have you. There it is on the bottom of the screen. Not too private.  
[sup]If you’ve seen it already, don’t bother. I haven’t updated it in months. But I’m gonna

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Sota\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@Sweet\_Sota\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Sota_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/56 "2001-10-23T02:57:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> **Admittedly, it was the movie, which was actually quite funny.**

Actually, **Guin** , FTR it _was_ in one of the original episodes of the show, too. I couldn’t tell you which one, and since this _is_ just a Pit thread, I’m not going to take the time to find a cite to it.

I was a fairly die hard fan of The Brady Bunch in syndication, which means I’ve seen most of the episodes at least 3 times.

And before someone tries to slander my character by pointing out that I’m a geek for admitting that, I’ll state here and now that I stand proud as a Brady Bunch fan. Thank you very much! =)

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**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/57 "2001-10-23T04:08:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kayeby \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \*  
> > \*\*Does that mean we can all watch? \*\*
> 
> Sure! Tickets at the door. First in, best dressed. Bring your spouses and children - it’ll be a fun day out for the whole family! \*\*

Keep in mind that the first few rows are the “wet zone.” You know, kinda like Sea World.

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**Author:** ![Kayeby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@Kayeby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kayeby)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/58 "2001-10-23T04:15:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by KKBattousai \*  
> \*\*You know, kinda like Sea World. \*\*

Fish fingers for all!

[sub]Oh God, I can’t believe I just said that.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![pennylane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@pennylane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pennylane)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/59 "2001-10-23T10:25:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bossk \*  
> **Has anyone anywhere since history began ever seen an attractive woman reading a Harlequin-style romance novel?**

No, they’re all too busy doing their nails, hair, etc. and working out so that they keep their lovely figures.

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**Author:** ![Venoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@Venoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Venoma)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/60 "2001-10-23T12:46:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by pennylane \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Bossk \*  
> > **Has anyone anywhere since history began ever seen an attractive woman reading a Harlequin-style romance novel?**
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> No, they’re all too busy doing their nails, hair, etc. and working out so that they keep their lovely figures. \*\*

I hope she’s joking.

(consequently, spending too much time in front of the mirror is rather vain, but what’s wrong with working out? Healthy! Gets one away from the PC for a bit! 😃 )

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