# When Ugly Girls Read

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 22, 2001, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909 "2001-10-22T18:33:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2001, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/141 "2001-10-29T17:51:24Z")

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This guy’s schtick is paper thin. Clearly, it’s about getting his jollies simply by abusing and insulting people and causing them psychological distress (or attempting, anyway, using the .22 caliber wit he clearly believes is a weapon of mass destruction) in an effort to feel better about whatever it is he believes is wrong with him. Last time I checked, this wasn’t that type of message board. His hopelessly ineffective “attacks” were amusing for a while, but, in my opinion at least, it got really old some time ago, and now he’s just taking up bandwidth.

Have not enough people complained via email, or what?

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**Author:** ![Bossk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@Bossk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bossk)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2001, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/142 "2001-10-29T20:41:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> \*\*  
> Assumption #1: Romance novels are replacing sex.  
> Assumption #2: Ugly people don’t get as much sex as pretty people.  
> Assumption #3: Your standards of beauty _and_ “enough” sex are anyone’s but your own.
> 
> \*\*

You forgot to say _Hi, Opal_, Der Cliquemeister.

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**Author:** ![Bossk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@Bossk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bossk)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2001, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/143 "2001-10-29T21:12:14Z")

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I don’t mind the abuse you’ve all laid out on me, I can take it. But damn, what you guys have done to Muffin is beyond reproach. Making an obscure poster think the only way he can “belong” to the hip inner circle is by shoveling abuse on others while the gallery alternately flirts with and cheers him on? Jesus, did you promise him 40 virgins, too? It just seems a little sleazy. I mean, look at this thread. He wasted his entire Sunday on me. You owe him an apology. I’m sure his cat feels very neglected today, too. Did you ever think of that?

For shame, Clique. _For shame._

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2001, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/144 "2001-10-29T21:17:17Z")

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And you forgot to go fuck yourself with the buisness end of a rake, asshole.  
Did you take my advice and read a book yet, idiot? I mean besides “Heelarious Combacks for Circus Geeks and Trolls”

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2001, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/145 "2001-10-29T21:33:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bossk \*  
> Isn’t that the fifth “man” you’ve proposed to this week?
> 
> That tic tic tic of your biological clock must be getting LOUD.

Notice, **Special K** , that she hasn’t gone near you with anything other than a stun gun and a restraining order.

Hmm.

Oh, and fuck off. Thanks:)

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2001, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/146 "2001-10-29T21:52:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by GingerOfTheNorth \*  
> \*\*Alice in Wonderland, you illiterate fuck. \*\*

**EEP!**

Oh, I originally read this as Alice\_in\_Wonderland you’re an illiterate fuck.

I was slightly nonplussed.

BTW - I think yer a hottie too Ginger.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2001, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/147 "2001-10-29T22:03:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> \*\*Assumption #2: Ugly people don’t get as much sex as pretty people.  
> \*\*

That can’t be true, it fails to explain why are there soooo many more ugly people? like me? (Ugly on the outside, not the inside, thank you very much!)

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2001, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/148 "2001-10-29T22:05:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lizard \*
> 
> You know where to stick your little “:rolleyes:”

And you know where you can stick your assumptions about **MY** sister.

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> Your sister gets “plenty” of action? According to who, you?

According to her. She’s made that clear.

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> Maybe its still not enough for HER.

Well, why don’t you ASK her? Oh wait! YOU don’t know her! But I do! She’s **MY** sister! Ya think maybe I know just a _teensy bit more_ about her than you do? Ya think?

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> Maybe she likes porn ANYWAY. What reading these books says about people’s personal lives is that they like sex, since _every one_ of these books has plenty of it.

EVERY one? So you know what kind of romances SHE reads, and you know WHY she reads them, and you know WHAT content is in each romance she reads? Is this it? So you’ve read EVERY pulp romance novel that ever was written? So you know this for sure? Boy, that sure says something about _you._ :rolleyes:

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> And as for the other things on your list, liking those things DOES say somehting about a person. Why? Because our tastes reflect our personalities.

Sure, they say “something”, but what? What exactly do it “say”? What does it say when a person reads a lot of, for instance, westerns? Please, oh wise one, enlighten us. WHAT does it say? You’ve got it all figured out, after all.

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**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2001, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/149 "2001-10-29T22:39:42Z")

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Hmm… what _does_ it say about a person when she reads a lot of westerns?

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2001, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/150 "2001-10-29T23:50:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bossk \*  
> \*\*I don’t mind the abuse you’ve all laid out on me, I can take it. \*\*

Of course you don’t mind. That’s what this thread was started for, wasn’t it?

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> \*\*Making an obscure poster think the only way he can “belong” to the hip inner circle is by shoveling abuse on others while the gallery alternately flirts with and cheers him on? \<snip\>  
> For shame, Clique. _For shame._ \*\*

Ah, good, the old ‘secret clique/inner circle’ argument. Haven’t seen this nearly enough. :rolleyes: Hey **Bossk** , if you don’t feel accepted here and out of the ‘inner circle’ maybe you could quit insulting the board at large, huh? You’ve done nothing but take pot shots at people here since you started the OP.

But what am I saying - you couldn’t quit if you wanted to could you? It’s your way of feeling superior: lumping people into groups and demeaning those groups. By doing so you feeling better than said groups of people. You did it in the OP and now you’re doing it with the people in this thread - we don’t agree with you threrefore we must belong to a ‘group’ which you make up in your own mind. You don’t belong to that ‘group’ so you mock it.

So who’s in this clique? Most of the names I’ve seen here are only vaguely familiar with. I don’t interact with them on a regular basis on the boards, we don’t chat or email off the boards. So if they’re in the clique, that must mean I’m not right? I mean how can I be a clique if I barely know these people? But I _still_ don’t agree with you and think you’re acting like a fucknugget who needs to be bitch-slapped with a crowbar.

Consider just for a minute that it’s not a conspiratorial clique and maybe - just maybe - the problem is your immature fucking attitude that’s pissing people off.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2001, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/151 "2001-10-30T00:56:46Z")

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You know, this is the first time I’ve ever been included in “The Clique” and to be the clique _miester_, well that puts me in the mood for a song. . . .  
_The Dick called me cliquemiester  
I’m an ugly fuck  
with superpowers and such  
I’m too much_

O.K., I’m no Fenris, but go ahead and try to get that damned song out of your head now.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2001, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/152 "2001-10-30T01:18:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> O.K., I’m no Fenris, but go ahead and try to get that damned song out of your head now.

Easily-enough done . . .

\*I love you, you love me  
We’re a happy family . . . \*

Go ahead, shoot me now:D

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**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2001, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/153 "2001-10-30T01:27:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by iampunha \*  
> \*\*Go ahead, shoot me now:D \*\*

No, I’ll wait 'til we get home.

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**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2001, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/154 "2001-10-30T01:33:18Z")

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You know what?

I’ve come to the conclusion that there **is** a SDMB clique. It is a clique that includes the admins, the moderators and all the important posters.

Oh, wait. It includes all the unimportant posters too, and the newbies. Silly me, I forgot to mention that the only people it excludes are stupid fucks.

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**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2001, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/155 "2001-10-30T01:37:41Z")

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If I mend my ways, can I join the clique?

Wait a sec. What are the dues?

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**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2001, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/156 "2001-10-30T02:09:20Z")

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_It’s rabbit season!_

No, it’s clique season!

_Rabbit season!_

Clique season!

_Rabbit season!_

Clique season!

_Rabbit season!_

Rabbit season!

_Clique season! – Wait - ack!_

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2001, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/157 "2001-10-30T02:24:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bossk \*  
> \*\*I’m sure his cat feels very neglected today, too. Did you ever think of that?
> 
> For shame, Clique. _For shame._ \*\*

_{And Bus Boy teeters on the street corner, holding out his hat for coins, somehow mistaking his invective for humour while he makes fun of a person’s [dearly loved and recently departed pet](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=93883) . . . but he laughs so hard he falls back into the gutter . . . and the passersby take pity on him mewling and puking in his bile . . . }_

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> \*Originally posted by Bossk \*  
> \*\*That tic tic tic of your biological clock must be getting LOUD. \*\*

_{And a strong [young mother](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=74949) happens along with her sweet child in hand . . . she hides her child’s eyes, and places herself between her care and the Pus Boy’s watery stage . . . shielding her child as they hurry past, away from the stench of the Pus Boy in the gutter . . .}_

_{And such is the final stage of the Pus Boy . . . sadly empty.}_

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**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2001, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/158 "2001-10-30T02:37:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> \*\*Lizard, my friend, you are making assumptions that can be expected of Bossk, since he is a total tool and ugly to boot ( and no I don’t have to see his picture to know he is an ugly person).
> 
> Assumption #1: Romance novels are replacing sex.  
> Assumption #2: Ugly people don’t get as much sex as pretty people.  
> Assumption #3: Your standards of beauty _and_ “enough” sex are anyone’s but your own.  
> \*\*

Please show me where I assumed any of the above. Where did I say romance novels are _replacing_ sex? Maybe they’re being used as a poor substitute, but “replacing” it? Nah. You misunderstood me. And as for your alleged assumptions #2 & #3:  
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> What I don’t think is that a woman can’t get laid just because she’s “ugly.” Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, after all.  
> \*\*

In my very first post I clearly said I believed the exact opposite of the things you are accusing me of assuming.

NOW, as for **yosemitebabe** …  
Boy, you really have it in for me, don’t you? I make one post expressing my opinion, and you jump all over my ass from the get-go. Does this go back to the thread about dating? Or is the smell of your own under-used twat addling your brains? Please don’t labor under the mistaken impression that your pathetic attempts at “sarcasm” actually bother me. I don’t give a rat’s ass about your sister’s sex life, or how well you two know each other. And just what big “assumptions” did I make, other than guessing that if she likes romance novels, then she probably likes _real_ romance or sex? (Since when is that such a huge leap?) I really doubt even you know _every … single … teensy … tiny … little … thing_ about her. That was my point, and your own statements proved this. You claimed to “know more” about her then me. Well, then were’s the explanation she gave you for reading these books? _ **Hmmm?** _  
Don’t bother anwering that, cause I really don’t give a damn. If you have nothing better to do than deliberately go out of your way to annoy me, then you’re even more pathetic than I think you are.

Then again, I’m sure I couldn’t underestimate you in that regard. I’ll be expecting more hostile, look-at-me-I’m-desperate-for-attention posts shortly. But whether your existence is even worth acknowledging anymore is anyone’s guess.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2001, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/159 "2001-10-30T02:59:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lizard \*  
> But whether your existence is even worth acknowledging anymore is anyone’s guess.

So then why are you acknowledging it with your post? If she isn’t worth acknowledging, as you seem to be suggesting in this sentence, then don’t acknowledge her. Saying “I don’t know if you’re important enough to respond to” is, much like **bossk** ’s “Ummmmmmmmmmmmm…”, a childish response, and one that most people in this thread probably saw right through.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2001, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-ugly-girls-read/88909/160 "2001-10-30T03:17:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lizard \*  
> NOW, as for **yosemitebabe** …  
> Boy, you really have it in for me, don’t you? I make one post expressing my opinion, and you jump all over my ass from the get-go. Does this go back to the thread about dating? …
> 
> _more incohent, somewhat unglued ranting from Lizard…_
> 
> Don’t bother anwering that, cause I really don’t give a damn. If you have nothing better to do than deliberately go out of your way to annoy me, then you’re even more pathetic than I think you are.

This is too funny. Where did all this hostility come from? What was it that pushed you over the edge here? How is it that my somewhat sarcastic post prompted **such** an explosive response? Was I even a _fraction_ as “hostile” as you have been here? (Like, God Forbid I disagree with you, and challenge your assumptions? That makes me “out to get you”?) How paranoid can you get?

And you sure do have a long memory, m’dear. The dating thread was a LOOOONG time ago, and I’d pretty much forgotten it, until you brought it up. And pray tell, how many times have I “been out to get you” since? I mean, I’d like for you to establish a pattern of behavior here. And I think you’ll need to do better than bringing up ONE old moldy thread, where we locked horns. So cites, please? Anyone else notice that “have it in” for Lizard? Because this is all news to me.

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