# When was the first use of "put it where the sun don't shine"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [November 13, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-first-use-of-put-it-where-the-sun-dont-shine/426281 "2007-11-13T19:51:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-first-use-of-put-it-where-the-sun-dont-shine/426281/1 "2007-11-13T19:51:10Z")
Who came up with this lovely terminology for that area? ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-first-use-of-put-it-where-the-sun-dont-shine/426281/2 "2007-11-13T20:01:32Z")
I don’t have an answer, except that it’s probably not the same person who came up with “the sun shines out of our behinds”. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-first-use-of-put-it-where-the-sun-dont-shine/426281/3 "2007-11-13T20:36:41Z")
[This](http://www.well.com/user/cynsa/bulb.html) might shed some light on the area. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-first-use-of-put-it-where-the-sun-dont-shine/426281/4 "2007-11-13T21:19:50Z")
I remember it as a line from the first _Bad News Bears_ movie which would be 1976. imdb doesn’t have it as one of their memorable quotes so my memory could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-first-use-of-put-it-where-the-sun-dont-shine/426281/5 "2007-11-13T22:45:18Z")
[QUOTE=hajario] I remember it as a line from the first _Bad News Bears_ movie which would be 1976. [/QUOTE] But surely it long predates that (I’d guess 50 years or more). ---
**Author:** ![Jinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Jinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jinx)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-first-use-of-put-it-where-the-sun-dont-shine/426281/6 "2007-11-13T23:49:24Z")
I think this was the first “catch phrase” slogan for the first personal hygiene item to be advertised around the time of the Model “T”, I WAG! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-first-use-of-put-it-where-the-sun-dont-shine/426281/7 "2007-11-14T00:05:46Z")
[QUOTE=hajario] I remember it as a line from the first _Bad News Bears_ movie which would be 1976. imdb doesn’t have it as one of their memorable quotes so my memory could be wrong. [/QUOTE] The linguists over a ADS-L seem to agree, as of last year. But they don’t search for phrases all that often. I’ve found one that looks promising from a Google Book Search(which is not always valid–no preview). I’ll try to go to the local Univ. library and see a hard copy. It’s from 1943. But, of course, it could have been used many years before that. It’s not the kind of thing that makes it into print in general. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-first-use-of-put-it-where-the-sun-dont-shine/426281/8 "2007-11-14T00:11:59Z")
I know I heard the phrase in the mid-60s. BNB may have been the first time in the general media, but it predates that by some time. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-first-use-of-put-it-where-the-sun-dont-shine/426281/9 "2007-11-14T14:31:32Z")
Another vote for “Bad News Bears”. It may not be the first time it was used, but that’s where I first remember hearing it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-first-use-of-put-it-where-the-sun-dont-shine/426281/10 "2007-11-14T17:15:22Z")
I suspect the basic idea was an established phrase when it made this TV appearance in 1971, in this [notorious confrontation between Norman Mailer and Dick Cavett](http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/11/12/the-passions-of-norman-mailer/) (page down to “Celebrity Gone Wild”) – but Cavett may have done a bit of improv with the “fold it five ways” and “moon” (instead of sun) details.