# When was the last time that someone was bayoneted to death?

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**Created:** [October 16, 2015, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-last-time-that-someone-was-bayoneted-to-death/734778 "2015-10-16T03:30:45Z")\
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I’m mean with the blade properly afixed to the rifle; not just someone that was stabbed, by hand with a bayonet.

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[2011?](http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-19755107)

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Maybe 2009. It doesn’t say the guy died.

[Wikipedia article Bayonet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayonet)

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> In 2009, Lieutenant James Adamson, aged 24, of the Royal Regiment of Scotland was awarded the Military Cross for a bayonet charge whilst on a tour of duty in Afghanistan: after shooting one Taliban fighter dead Adamson had run out of ammunition when another enemy appeared. He immediately charged the second Taliban fighter and bayoneted him.

There was also a bayonet charge in 2011 cited but it doesn’t clearly state anyone was bayoneted to death, or at all.

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Is your question the last time it happened or when was the last time such a thing was common???

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**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\
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It was also used by the British Army in the Falklands War in 1982. This 2002 article is somewhat interesting:

[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1407233/Last-charge-for-the-bayonet-a-victim-of-modern-warfare.html](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1407233/Last-charge-for-the-bayonet-a-victim-of-modern-warfare.html)

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I wouldn’t have thought it was possible to find out but you guys took a stab at it.

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**Author:** ![Ken001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@Ken001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ken001)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-last-time-that-someone-was-bayoneted-to-death/734778/13 "2015-10-16T10:03:34Z")

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Umm…

Is the question really worth asking? Death is utterly final. It isn’t IMHO something to cheerfully chat about.

I expect what the OP means is - are bayonets still used and if so, what are the recent records?

For the record, knives and machetes feature daily in battles in Central Africa. Check out the Congo. Lords Army. Also Tutsi v Hutsu in Rwanda.

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> [@Ken001](#):
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> Umm…
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> Is the question really worth asking? Death is utterly final. It isn’t IMHO something to cheerfully chat about.

We have gone far beyond chatting about it. We [positively revel in it.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=742233) Yes, we know, we are going to hell.

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> [@Ken001](#):
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> Umm…  
> Is the question really worth asking? Death is utterly final. It isn’t IMHO something to cheerfully chat about.

I assume you’ve never been to a wake in Ireland. Different people and cultures deal with it in different ways.

And on the straightdope military questions are asked all the time, so I’m not sure why a question about bayonets should raise an eyebrow.

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-last-time-that-someone-was-bayoneted-to-death/734778/16 "2015-10-16T13:37:55Z")

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I didnt think most modern military arms still had a place to put a bayonet.

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I didnt think most modern military arms still had a place to put a bayonet.

Oh yes. In some states, the stupid anti-assault rifle laws forbid, among other things, a rifle with a bayonet lug.

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I didnt think most modern military arms still had a place to put a bayonet.

These days it isn’t much- just a lug on the barrel that the bayonet mounts to in some fashion (many seem to just sort of clip to the lug), and some part that attaches/goes over the barrel and keeps it aligned.

And most of the bayonets are really some combination of bayonet, fighting knife and utility knife, and don’t look like the funky spike of the 18th-19th centuries, or the long sword-ish ones of the 19th/20th centuries.

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This is the last one I could find:

> [@](#):
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> May 14, 2004
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> Brian Wood was just a young lance corporal at the time when he dismounted his thin-skinned vehicle amid withering enemy fire, and followed his commander’s order to fix bayonets.
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> ~~
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> The fighting was close quarters and intense.
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> “Basically, it was short, sharp and furious,” said Wood, who was later awarded the Military Cross for actions that day.
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> Cleared, they headed to the next, and the next, fighting, which took almost two hours, and the lives of approximately 30 Mahdi army soldiers of Muqtada Al-Sadr.
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> A few continued to hold out, holed up in a bunker, until a British tank arrived to level it.
> 
> [The Most Famous Bayonet Charge of Modern Conflict - Business Insider](http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-famous-bayonet-charge-of-modern-conflict-2012-10?IR=T)

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I didnt think most modern military arms still had a place to put a bayonet.

There’s still a place to put the bayonet in your enemy, makes sense to have a place for it on your gun. The M16 and M4A have bayonet holders, and I think I’d want a bayonet in close combat.

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> [@Ken001](#):
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> Umm…
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> Is the question really worth asking? Death is utterly final. It isn’t IMHO something to cheerfully chat about.

What if the bayonet is a co2-charged [Wasp knife?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasp_knife)

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> There’s still a place to put the bayonet in your enemy, makes sense to have a place for it on your gun. The M16 and M4A have bayonet holders, and I think I’d want a bayonet in close combat.

Pointy sticks are what made us human. Or chimps.

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> There’s still a place to put the bayonet in your enemy, makes sense to have a place for it on your gun. The M16 and M4A have bayonet holders, and I think I’d want a bayonet in close combat.

I’d think one of the goals of using an M16 or M4A is to avoid combat that close.

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> [@Ken001](#):
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> Umm…
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> Is the question really worth asking? Death is utterly final. It isn’t IMHO something to cheerfully chat about.

[Moderating]

This isn’t really a factual response to the question, and is irrelevant in GQ.

> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> Oh yes. In some states, the stupid anti-assault rifle laws forbid, among other things, a rifle with a bayonet lug.

Let’s avoid political commentary in GQ.

No warnings issued.

Colibri  
General Questions Moderator

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What if he comes at you with a bunch of loganberries?  
Wait for it -

Regards,  
Shodan

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You know you’re a redneck when you affix your bayonet with hose clamps.

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