# When will it be done tomorrow? \[U.S. Elections\]

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 1, 2004, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-it-be-done-tomorrow-u-s-elections/272273 "2004-11-01T08:04:08Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-it-be-done-tomorrow-u-s-elections/272273/21 "2004-11-01T23:26:10Z")

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Most polls this time predict a closer outcome than the 2000 _results_. I haven’t heard a single comparison in all this deluge of media coverage between 2004 polls and 2000 _polls_. CNN’s 2000 election [archive](http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/) suggests that polls suggested that the race was very close until October 25, 2000; after that Bush gained an advantage (described as ‘7 points’ at one time). Polls predict the popular vote, so this prediction ended up being slightly wrong.

A lead of even 3% translates to thousands of votes; even 1% is a large number of votes in a large state. Kennedy won in 1960 with an advantage of 0.17% in the popular vote, about 110,000 votes; Gore lost in 2000 despite having an advantage of 0.51% in the popular vote (about 450,000 votes).

The polls may say the election will be very close, but they are wrong somehow (which is why there is a margin of error). Most likely it will not really be as close as 2000, and I think it’s possible there will be a clear result by midnight. A scenario where several important states are close enough that the results might be changed by arguing is statistically unlikely. But then, a scenario where several important states have to count absentee and provisional ballots before giving final results is possible.

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