# When will people get off Lance Armstrong's back already? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 16, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347 "2013-01-16T02:24:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/41 "2013-01-17T07:39:39Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Interesting that Dick Pound raised the possibility of cycling being taken out of the Olympics if Armstrong implicates those close to top of the sport. Dick Pound?! Bwahahaha! šŸ˜ƒ ETA: > [@China\_Guy](#): > > kinda hard to pp her 8 year old bubble. If it werenā€™t your daughter you were talking about, I might be tempted to make a Dick Pound joke. Oh, ooops! Sorry. šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/42 "2013-01-17T12:41:14Z")
Um no, not by a long shot, his relationship with his wife ended years before he and Cheryl Crow even met. He reminds me of Pete Rose, lies upon lies upon lies, for years on end. Then, when finally forced to admit the truth cannot understand why people canā€™t just ā€˜forgive and forgetā€™. Douchebag straight up. And whatā€™s with all this implying he wants to compete again? I thought he was barred from doing so ever again. But people seem to feel if he ā€˜ownsā€™ it, heā€™ll be allowed back. I donā€™t think, after lying for years and years, suing people, being ruthless toward those who spoke out against you, etc, finally revealing the truth is actually ā€˜owningā€™ it. So can he ever go back to competing, or not? ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/43 "2013-01-17T12:52:41Z")
Heh. ā€œI would say he didnā€™t come clean in the manner I expected,ā€ Oprah Winfrey said, plugging her interview. Unexpected and riveting, she says? Do you think weā€™ll see Lance Armstrong eating Crow on national television? _rimshot_ ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/44 "2013-01-17T13:06:05Z")
So todayā€™s the day. Itā€™s going to be a two hour interview? Thatā€™s no ordinary interview- thatā€™s an interview on steroids. Really, why all the fuss over a sport that nobody gives a ratā€™s ass about? Sure, it gets about 15 seconds of air on your local news about 3-4 times a year, wherein your local sports anchor tries to sound real international and calls it the Tour de Frawwwnce, but other than that one event nobody but nobody cares. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/45 "2013-01-17T13:18:43Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Interesting that Dick Pound raised the possibility of cycling being taken out of the Olympics if Armstrong implicates those close to top of the sport. If he is as vindictive as it seems I would imagine heā€™ll take the opportunity to smear the sport as much as possible. I mean, what difference does it make to him now? He can give Wiggins a pie in the face by proxy with very little additional risk to himself. Not quite sure why youā€™re throwing Bradley Wiggins into this mess? Iā€™m sort of torn by the housecleaning going on here. Part of me very much wants the vindictive loser to name names all the way to the top, and itā€™s likely that whatever he says thereā€™s going to be lots of nasty skeletons coming out: [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323783704578246001221628488.html](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323783704578246001221628488.html) > [@](#): > > The investment bank founded by Thomas Weisel, the powerful Silicon Valley financier who bankrolled and owned Lance Armstrongā€™s former cycling team, also managed assets for the then-head of cyclingā€™s governing body, according to a broker who handled the accounts. It would be a great thing for the future of cycling if Armstrong helped to take down Verbruggen and Pat McQuaid, whose stewardship of the sport was at best incompetent and at worst deliberately aided cheating. They have to go. But Iā€™d rather see this cleanup happen without losing Olympic sport status. For starters, Iā€™ve not seen anything to suggest that Olympic cycling (which is far from the big money status of the Tour) has anything like the same issue with cheating. Itā€™s the equivalent of dropping boxing as an Olympic sport because of issues with Pro boxing. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/46 "2013-01-17T16:43:12Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Speaking of Livestrong, he started that stupid rubber bracelet fad that refuses to die. Now every single cause has a rubber bracelet. For that alone he should be punished. _ā€œYou came for a [scause](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Scause_for_Applause) to wear on your paws. And you want others to wear yours upon tharsā€™.ā€_ ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/47 "2013-01-17T17:16:37Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Um no, not by a long shot, his relationship with his wife ended years before he and Cheryl Crow even met. No. Armstrong and his wife Kristin filed for divorce in September 2003 and the divorce was finalized in December. Itā€™s not clear exactly when Armstrong began dating Crow (they first met in October 2003) but they publicly announced that they had been dating for several months in January 2004. So it appears that Armstrong didnā€™t leave his wife for Sheryl Crow. But he met Crow right after he left his wife and they were apparently dating during the divorce process. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/48 "2013-01-17T18:17:39Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Not quite sure why youā€™re throwing Bradley Wiggins into this mess?. No specific reason, just that heā€™s the current golden boy, won a TDF cleanly and has been very vocal and scathing in his comment on Armstrong. If the leopard doesnā€™t change his spots then Iā€™d expect Armstrong to continue trying to smear people like Wiggins just out of spite. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/49 "2013-01-17T18:46:40Z")
How long is the limitation period for perjury in the Us? Can all victims off his perjury suits appeal and have the satisfaction of seeing him charged or has he succeeded in keeping the lie going for long enough to escape liability? ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/50 "2013-01-17T19:03:26Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I also want him to apologize for the two years he was having sex with Sheryl Crow and I wasnā€™t. Now Iā€™m really angry at Lance. Although I do understand his lying now. Hey Sheryl, I never doped either! He is a celebrity and there is still money to be made and women to bed. Iā€™ll get off Lanceā€™s back when I donā€™t see him on TV anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/51 "2013-01-17T19:04:21Z")
> [@lisiate](#): > > How long is the limitation period for perjury in the Us? He didnā€™t testify under oath very often, just once that I know of where he said he didnā€™t use PEDs. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/52 "2013-01-17T20:07:33Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > News broke a few days ago that Armstrong was on the verge of announcing that heā€™s been lying, that he did take PEDs, did ruin the lives of those whoā€™d accused him of doping, did use his position of cancer-survivor to sanctimoniously claim the high ground in the discussion, etc. and my question is WHEN will people stop blaming him for all the evil in the universe and just drop the subject already, and let the guy go back to living a normal life, which is all he wants at this point? This is yesterdayā€™s news now, finish patting yourself on the back --YES, you were right and Lance was wrongā€“and move on with your friggin life already, okay? Jeez. Probably about the time when people stop blowing EVERYTHING that ever happens out of proportion. In other words, not any time soon. ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/53 "2013-01-17T20:25:52Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > He didnā€™t testify under oath very often, just once that I know of where he said he didnā€™t use PEDs. Kind of like a guy who commits rape or murder just once, just to see if he likes the way it makes him feel. Nothing wrong with that! ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/54 "2013-01-17T22:08:11Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > He didnā€™t testify under oath very often, just once that I know of where he said he didnā€™t use PEDs. Once would be enough though. And didnā€™t Jeffrey Archer go to jail for having his secretary vlie for him? Still interested in the possibility of appeals as well. Surely heā€™d have to pay back any damages he received plus interest. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/55 "2013-01-17T22:18:10Z")
I donā€™t think he can be charged with perjury - statute of limitations. Itā€™s also too late for some of the legal awards heā€™s received, although not all of them. I am sure all of that factors into the timing of his confession. He would never come clean if it meant he might go to jail over it. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/56 "2013-01-17T22:35:05Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I donā€™t think he can be charged with perjury - statute of limitations. Itā€™s also too late for some of the legal awards heā€™s received, although not all of them. I am sure all of that factors into the timing of his confession. He would never come clean if it meant he might go to jail over it. Is that how it works? I thought the Statute of Limitations clock only starts when a crime is discovered. Presumably in this case, that would be once LA admits he was lying. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/57 "2013-01-18T00:00:04Z")
So back to my original question - what is the limitation period for this sort of thing? And when does the block start running if there was an intentional cover up? ---
**Author:** ![drew870mitchell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drew870mitchell/32/3946_2.png) [@drew870mitchell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drew870mitchell)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/58 "2013-01-18T00:14:32Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Oh, and while we are at it, fuck Oprah too, the egomaniacal headline chasing whore who will do anything for a buck. Donā€™t put him on your show where he will garner pity by your viewers. Let him get ā€œlancedā€ on 60 Minutes, like a big boy. Fuck that. The last thing we need is this drama muscling out actual news. Keep him with Oprah. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/59 "2013-01-18T00:35:04Z")
> [@lisiate](#): > > So back to my original question - what is the limitation period for this sort of thing? And when does the block start running if there was an intentional cover up? Keep in mind weā€™re talking civil law here not criminal law. The general principle is that the statute of limitations only begins when the plaintiff could have knowledge that he had been harmed. So if anyone has a case against Armstrong based on his denial of drug use, the clock would presumably have just started running when it was established that he had used drugs. With that said, you usually have one year to initiate a lawsuit (it varies from state to state). ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347/60 "2013-01-18T00:48:12Z")
Great thanks for that. And the limitation period for any criminal charges would be? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-people-get-off-lance-armstrongs-back-already/647347.md?page=4)