# When will Sanders suspend? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 28, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381 "2016-02-28T13:05:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/41 "2016-02-29T20:56:09Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The point would be getting his message out. And Sanders has found out that a lot more people are hearing his message when he delivers it as part of a presidential campaign. > > If the press stops covering, he can quit. But I think they’ll stick around for a while yet. Reporters love the horse race aspect and they don’t want to call it over. So they’ll continue to play up Sanders as a contender as long as possible. He will also get a prominent speaking time slot during the convention. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/42 "2016-02-29T20:56:50Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Why is it dreaming? > > [Hillary Clinton's Coming Legal Crisis | RealClearPolitics](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/01/13/hillary_clintons_coming_legal_crisis_129293.html) > > The stuff leaking out of FBI is not sexy but it is starting to look indictable. You should definitely come back and make me eat crow if this actually happens. I will believe it when I see it but until then I am going to take it with a grain of salt. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/43 "2016-02-29T20:57:10Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > He can, but I’m not sure I see the point after she has the required delegates. If Sanders supporters no longer have any threat of denying her the nomination, she has no reason not to switch to fighting for the general. > > Without that threat, I’m not sure how his candidacy has any more pull than other forms of advocation. Those delegates will populate the platform committees and their views will be reflected in the party platforms. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/44 "2016-02-29T21:01:06Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > You should definitely come back and make me eat crow if this actually happens. I will believe it when I see it but until then I am going to take it with a grain of salt. I doubt there will be an indictment, but with Hillary some kind of scandal could arise, and if nothing else the GOP will trot out the long list of Clinton scandals in the general election if Hillary gets the nod. It will be an effective strategy because even though there is a lot of fiction in that list there is plenty of fact also. Now, when I say ‘effective’ I don’t mean that will necessarily lead to the defeat of Clinton if she’s the candidate, but it will likely decrease turnout and cut into potential cross-over votes. ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/45 "2016-02-29T21:03:28Z")
Bernie’s campaign is reeking of desperation > **[Sanders supporters' aggressive courtship of Clinton superdelegates may be...](https://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/sanders-supporters-aggressive-courtship-of-clinton-superdelegates-may-be-backfiring/)** > > Backers of Democratic presidential contender Bernie Sanders have launched a campaign to win over some of his rival Hillary Clinton's most prized supporters -- the superdelegates that can make the difference in a tight race for the party's... ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/46 "2016-02-29T21:12:43Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The point would be getting his message out. And Sanders has found out that a lot more people are hearing his message when he delivers it as part of a presidential campaign. > > If the press stops covering, he can quit. But I think they’ll stick around for a while yet. Reporters love the horse race aspect and they don’t want to call it over. So they’ll continue to play up Sanders as a contender as long as possible. After tomorrow the media will not be playing the aspect of the horse race that is who is going to win but the aspect of how long the corpse is kept around until the plug is pulled. His funding will wither. The turnout of those who support him in future races will drop dramatically. All that _diminishes_ the strength of the message he has so far delivered. It gives the message instead that there is, in fact, no significant groundswell of support for his perspectives and that his supporters are mostly dilettantes. Hanging on through March 15? Maybe, maybe not. I’ve bet yes but would be completely unsurprised if he quits after MI or even after tomorrow. Past then? Very very unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/47 "2016-02-29T21:24:30Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Those delegates will populate the platform committees and their views will be reflected in the party platforms. Nobody cares what’s in the party platforms. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/48 "2016-02-29T21:49:53Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > April 1st. It seems like the April Fools season starts earlier and earlier every year. I suppose we’ll be hearing the dull rumble of whoopie cushions by the end of the week. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/49 "2016-02-29T22:16:08Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > After tomorrow the media will not be playing the aspect of the horse race that is who is going to win but the aspect of how long the corpse is kept around until the plug is pulled. > > His funding will wither. The turnout of those who support him in future races will drop dramatically. > > All that _diminishes_ the strength of the message he has so far delivered. It gives the message instead that there is, in fact, no significant groundswell of support for his perspectives and that his supporters are mostly dilettantes. > > Hanging on through March 15? Maybe, maybe not. I’ve bet yes but would be completely unsurprised if he quits after MI or even after tomorrow. Past then? Very very unlikely. Exactly. The media coverage after tomorrow will feature former campaign volunteers doing tequila shots in Cancun rather than phone banking. They’ll find a rally with empty seats rather than the overflowing rallies of earlier. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/51 "2016-02-29T22:23:34Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Exactly. The media coverage after tomorrow will feature former campaign volunteers doing tequila shots in Cancun rather than phone banking. They’ll find a rally with empty seats rather than the overflowing rallies of earlier. I think it will still be considered a cool, exciting ticket to go to a Sanders rally even after he has no chance at the nomination. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/52 "2016-02-29T22:29:43Z")
> [@benadoo](#): > > I think that tomorrow on Super Tuesday he will come ahead to win a majority of the states and Hillary will drop out soon after. And this is based on polls? Gut instincts? A 47 point win Saturday for Clinton was an ass kicking of epic proportions. The high delegate states all show big Clinton leads. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/53 "2016-02-29T22:30:37Z")
> [@benadoo](#): > > I think that tomorrow on Super Tuesday he will come ahead to win a majority of the states and Hillary will drop out soon after. Doesn’t matter how ST goes, Hillary will no more drop out before the convention than Bernie will. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/54 "2016-02-29T22:31:42Z")
> [@benadoo](#): > > I think that tomorrow on Super Tuesday he will come ahead to win a majority of the states and Hillary will drop out soon after. If that doesn’t happen, and Hillary wins the majority of Super Tuesday states, do you think Sander’s will drop out? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/55 "2016-02-29T22:35:36Z")
After South Carolina, he kept talking bravely about all the delegates available in California, but that isn’t until June. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/56 "2016-02-29T23:21:45Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I think it will still be considered a cool, exciting ticket to go to a Sanders rally even after he has no chance at the nomination. It’s cool to be on a train that is chugging up a hill, and to be joining in the “we think we can we think we can we think we can” chant. It is not cool to be on the train as it doesn’t, mumbling “we thought we could we thought we could we thought we could.” Anyone with any idea why there is no polling of any recent vintage out of either Minnesota or Colorado? I know caucus states are tough to get a bead on but still. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/57 "2016-02-29T23:23:41Z")
He has to come from behind. Without more support from moderate Democrats, the schedule does work against him. So threads like this are going to be around for a while. But I think he will turn it around and close on her from late March forward, even if he doesn’t quite catch her. The way delegates are weighted is designed to drag it out. Sorry guys, it’s not “over,” over yet. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/58 "2016-02-29T23:43:50Z")
Oh it is also weighted such that the result is that the later states that demographically favor him some have more weight. So there is some motivation to try to hang on past this Clinton “firewall.” Which is why I am betting he will hang on to see what MI and probably even IL, OH, and FL bring. Will enough of his supporters donate another $27 (on average) each to allow him to compete in those states? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/59 "2016-02-29T23:56:40Z")
… and isn’t California on June 7? I’m going with the latest possible date on the poll, June 7, or maybe not even til the convention, for the simple reason that Bernie isn’t running an ordinary campaign. ISTM that this isn’t about him and not truly about winning, it’s about the message and hopefully laying the groundwork for change further down the road. So he’ll probably be motivated to keep going as long as the message is being heard and the money holds out, or unless the relentless pace just proves too much for him physically. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/60 "2016-03-03T16:50:16Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Nobody cares what’s in the party platforms. How else do you change the direction of the Democratic party? He might as well hang on and see if Hillary gets indicted. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381/61 "2016-03-03T18:55:25Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > l. I think if he sees the writing on the wall he’ll make a deal with her to drop out and get a chance to speak at the convention, and have her incorporate some of the core from his message into her campaign. My understanding of both DNC and RNC rules are that anyone who has a delegate and has not officially withdrawn their nomination (thus freeing up their pledged delegates) has a right to speak as a nominee. As for agreeing to Sanders dropping out for concessions, why should Clinton agree to that if she has 50%+? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-sanders-suspend/747381.md?page=4)