Not unless we evolve into Eloi and Morlocks afterwards.
You ARE dense aren’t you? I NEVER defended believers or claimed to be one. I NEVER defended right-wingers or claimed to be one. I believe that I even said they were stupid. You’re arguing from the stance that I am trying to convince you that you’re wrong; I’m not. I AM saying that the “religious nuts” sound just like YOU when they promote their beliefs and you sound like THEM when you promote yours.
I’m not asking you to do the impossible, i.e. meet a standard, just show us how these "facts: of yours disprove religious beliefs, just as I would ask a believer to prove his beliefs., Guess what? Neither one of you can do that so you are just as bad as they are.
Believer when cornered: “You just gotta have FAITH!”
Der when cornered: Religion BAD, BAD, BAD!
Dial it back in Great Debates.
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Manicheism has totally dissapeared. It was both organized and multi-national extending even into China.
By your definition, ancient Judaism is not a modern religion. However, modern Judaism would seem to be a textbook case of a religion where “You kill them in one country, they flourish in another”.
There are significant Hindu populations in Nepal and Bangladesh. Given that these countries are geographically contiguous with India, I take your point. But there are also millions of Hindus in Indonesia, which is not.
Are there definitive stages of religious evolution like we sometimes ascribe to political evolution? It seems politics goes from things like fiat to monarchies to democracies (I probably shouldn’t assume world history follows the technology tree of civilization 2, but meh). Does monotheism necessarily have anything that separates it from animism or a different faith?
It seems as the west becomes more wealthy we become more secular. I think the last 3 generations have been more secular than the last, and I don’t see that changing. By that rate, by 2100 most of the world should be pretty secular. Even though we say we are religious in the US, we don’t act like we believe what we say we believe when asked.
But if they reject christianity will another faith come up, or will all faith more or less go away? I don’t know.
It naturally tends towards intolerance since it denies the existence of other gods, instead of just considering them of less interest or importance. Note that it’s the monotheisms of Christianity and Islam that have spread themselves across the world by the sword. I’d expect monotheisms to prevail over time because they are the ones trying to erase their rivals.
Most likely this has already been asked, but are there any examples of religions that have zero followers but but who’s civilization or core people haven’t been completely or mostly wiped out? I can’t think of any.
My guess is that there will be some small remnant of Christian of some type or another kicking around as long as our civilization lasts. It’s simply too entrenched. It might only be a few million in a century or so, and maybe a few hundred thousand after that, and maybe only a few thousand after that, but at some point it will probably not fall lower than that, unless we take a major hit to the population and to our civilization. If we ever go back to wandering tribes of nomads or hunter gatherers then it will be the luck of the draw as to what few remnants survive at that point…for all I know, it could be a band of Wiccan’s who survive the attack of the Space Bats and form a new Clan.
ISTM that there will always be some percentage of the population who is drawn to the mystical or to pure faith, and that no amount of technology or science will ever erase that core group.
-XT
War is hol?
I doubt the people of the past thought that smallpox would ever be eradicated, either.
Isn’t it making a come back in some 3rd world countries? Or am I thinking of something else?
Regardless, I think that religion will be a bit more difficult to get rid of than a disease. There might be an inoculation or cure for a disease, but faith seems to be nearly hard wired into the human animals brain. Well…that might be overstating things. Perhaps it’s more cultural…but it seems to span every culture throughout all of recorded history, and there are at least some indications that it existed in one form or another in pre-history as well.
-XT
When another religion takes over and kills all the non-believers? If you’re lucky it will happen in your lifetime.
That’s an interesting question. I would probably say within about 50 years Christians will be a minority in almost every country, maybe in 150-200 years, it will be a virtually extinct religion. At least in the sense of following the Bible.
actually, it kind of did. many Jews in Israel are actually atheist now. oddly, since the Holocaust, being Jewish has BECOME more of a ‘racial’ than a ‘religious’ thing, before it wasn’t so much.