# When will they admit to having an anti-gravity plane? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 20, 2019, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088 "2019-01-20T01:51:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/21 "2019-01-20T13:22:19Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Ok, maybe my wording is wrong. The TR3B uses some sort of electron or magnetic propulsion and coils. Considering that a good number of pictures of the alleged super plane were hoaxes, I find no reason to believe it actually exists. I think the existence of the plane or any enabling technology is fodder for the credulous. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/22 "2019-01-20T14:24:30Z")
We’ve had anti-gravity technology since 1956. It was invented by Daniel Dunn, who later pioneered the homework machine. I thought everybody knew that. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/23 "2019-01-20T14:30:12Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > We’ve had anti-gravity technology since 1956. It was invented by Daniel Dunn, who later pioneered the homework machine. I thought everybody knew that. You missed that Air Force General Leroy Brown was put in charge of Area 51 _decades_ ago. The Case of The Anti-Aging Serum was actually part of a disinformation campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/24 "2019-01-20T14:47:40Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Urbanredneck, all functional aircraft are anti-gravity – typically fixed wing, rotary wing, or rocket (gimbal etc.). I came in here to say the same thing: all aircraft are anti-gravity flying machines. Gravity is very easy to overcome. ---
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/25 "2019-01-20T15:50:24Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Gravity is very easy to overcome. Only in a very temporary sense. What goes up must come down. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/26 "2019-01-20T15:54:29Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > If someday you look up into the sky and see a strange looking, triangular UFO with a round orb in the center, dont freak. Its not aliens. Its the advanced TR-3B aircraft. I believe they call it the [ASTRA](https://www.matrixdisclosure.com/tr-3b-black-triangle/). The lead story for your source is > [@](#): > > _ANTARCTICA: Aliens, UFO bases, Nazi Bases,or Trapped Fallen Angels?_ (bad punctuation and random capitalization theirs) Next time cite something a little less ridiculous…like _Fate_ magazine. 'Nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/27 "2019-01-20T16:09:37Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > Only in a very temporary sense. > > What goes up must come down. _Looks at username_ When I jump, the Earth _follows_. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/28 "2019-01-20T16:23:31Z")
For fun, just remember that the OP was/is a science teacher. ---
**Author:** ![Littleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ccd318/32.png) [@Littleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Littleman)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/29 "2019-01-20T16:27:29Z")
If you want to see less than fully explained anti gravity phenomenon, especially with triangle shaped craft that are real then look up lifters, or the beaufield-brown effect , or brown effect lifters. Reality is stranger than fiction. ---
**Author:** ![Littleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ccd318/32.png) [@Littleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Littleman)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/30 "2019-01-20T16:33:47Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > For fun, just remember that the OP was/is a science teacher. Oh my! ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/31 "2019-01-20T16:40:46Z")
> [@Littleman](#): > > If you want to see less than fully explained anti gravity phenomenon, especially with triangle shaped craft that are real then look up lifters, or the beaufield-brown effect , or brown effect lifters. > > Reality is stranger than fiction. [Biefeld-Brown](https://aip.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1063/1.4890353). It’s pretty cool. Not even remotely useful, but cool. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/32 "2019-01-20T16:40:48Z")
I have a hard time believing these claims, since the [Weekly World News](http://weeklyworldnews.com/) hasn’t reported on it yet. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/33 "2019-01-20T16:50:16Z")
Urbanredneck, meet [Jim B.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=869252) ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/34 "2019-01-20T16:50:55Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Ok, maybe my wording is wrong. The TR3B uses some sort of electron or magnetic propulsion and coils. Which is an interesting engineering proposition, but they’ll publicly roll it out when they are good and ready to do so. If they decide to go on with it at all. Heck, we’re all still waiting for the Aurora, aren’t we? I expect that for every weapons system/platform actually presented in society as it were, there are a dozen proposals and prototypes that nobody outside the design bureau and the services’ advanced projects units ever lays eyes upon because not worth the cost or testing shows it is not really ready for prime time or the intelligence people tell you the other guys have already figured out a counter anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Littleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ccd318/32.png) [@Littleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Littleman)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/35 "2019-01-20T16:59:02Z")
> [@andros](#): > > [Biefeld-Brown](https://aip.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1063/1.4890353). > > It’s pretty cool. Not even remotely useful, but cool. Ah yes biefield…it’s been 20 years and I didn’t bother to look it up just now. And yeah basically impractical for any use currently since no power source is light enough to produce the power needed to lift itself using the effect. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/36 "2019-01-20T17:22:13Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Yes,[the Air Force has a working plane which has uses anti gravity to fly.](https://www.matrixdisclosure.com/tr-3b-secret-plane-black-triangle/) What I’m reading is the TR-3B uses rotating magnetic coils powered by a nuclear engine which reduce about 87% of weight. Is the full name the TR-3B Photoshop? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/37 "2019-01-20T17:30:05Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > What goes up must come down. Google “escape velocity” and prepare for a surprise! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/38 "2019-01-20T17:38:50Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > Only in a very temporary sense. > > What goes up must come down. > [@wolfpup](#): > > Google “escape velocity” and prepare for a surprise! 😉 I’m surprised that you’re not deferring to **Flyer** in this area 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/39 "2019-01-20T17:41:16Z")
If Cecil were still writing columns, surely the title of this thread would be included in a “QUESTIONS WE’RE STILL THINKING ABOUT” addendum. examples here: > **[How can waves be crashing on all sides of an island at once?](https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2646/how-can-waves-be-crashing-on-all-sides-of-an-island-at-once/)** > **[What’s better for the environment, a scooter or a car?](https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2852/whats-better-for-the-environment-a-scooter-or-a-car/)** > **[Is the arsenic in treated wood dangerous?](https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2889/is-the-arsenic-in-treated-wood-dangerous/)** ---
**Author:** ![Littleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ccd318/32.png) [@Littleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Littleman)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088/40 "2019-01-20T17:59:51Z")
> [@andros](#): > > [Biefeld-Brown](https://aip.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1063/1.4890353). > > It’s pretty cool. Not even remotely useful, but cool. Oh, I guess it does see some use in the novelty that is bladeless fans, or moving the air in electrostatic filters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-they-admit-to-having-an-anti-gravity-plane/828088.md?page=3)