# When You Come to Subway®...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 30, 2001, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024 "2001-08-30T22:25:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![pezpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@pezpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pezpunk)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2001, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/61 "2001-09-01T13:42:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Demise \*  
> \*\*Also, for fuck’s sake, Subway hasn’t refered to their employees as Sandwich Artists for 8 or 9 years. Christ, the shit that sticks in peoples memories… \*\*

Actually they still refern to them as sandwich artists. It says so right on their lil polo shirts. On that note am I the only one that thinks that if they are going to call them sandwich artists that they should have them wear smocks? (sp?)

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**Author:** ![waxteeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@waxteeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waxteeth)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2001, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/62 "2001-09-01T14:12:19Z")

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I have the same experience as gatopescado.

I’ll take a Subway club on white with everything.  
Do you want cheese?  
Yes give me everything.  
Do you want onions?  
Yes give me everything, even jalapenos.  
Do you want lettuce?  
Yes give me everything you have in all these little containers, even salt/pepper, vinegar & oil.  
Do you want tomatoes?

😕  
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Now I realize I’ll never get them to understand but I’m still hungry so I have to hang my head and just say yes.  
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Do you want pickles?  
Yes  
Do you want green peppers?  
yes, yes, yes…

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**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2001, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/63 "2001-09-01T15:32:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by pezpunk \*  
> \*\*Actually they still refern to them as sandwich artists. It says so right on their lil polo shirts. On that note am I the only one that thinks that if they are going to call them sandwich artists that they should have them wear smocks? (sp?) \*\*

Ug, they resurrected that shit? They had discontinued it when I worked there aprox. 9 years ago. Shows you how much attention I’ve paid to them since.

Actually, it just occured to me that since Subway is a franchise, individual owners can buy whatever kind of Subway-approved shirts they want, so some owners may be clinging to the past…

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**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2001, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/64 "2001-09-01T15:35:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*And um, what IS a BMT? \*\*

It stands for Boston-Manhattan Transfer, an old subway line…at least according to Subway lore. It’s a nauseating sandwich that consists of baloney, ham, and pepperoni. Nasty.

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2001, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/65 "2001-09-01T18:10:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by friedo \*  
> I visit Subway about once a week and the dude there remembers me and knows my default sandwich configuration.

For some reason this struck me as very funny, guess i need to spend a little less time working on computers.

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2001, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/66 "2001-09-01T18:35:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by cazzle \*  
> \*\*Ok, sandwich artists of the world, answer me this…
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> It bugs me! Why do I pay full price for a sandwich with half the toppings?
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> (I order like this because I have food allergies). \*\*

IANAEconomist but I believe the term is called added value.  
I walk into a subway and I know that my Rib sandwich comes with whatever I do or dont want on it. Wouldnt it suck to walk up to the register and experience this at the register

\<beep\>Rib sandwich 2.99 &lt;beep&gt;extra BBQ sauce .39  
\<beep\>lettuce .25 &lt;beep&gt;onion .30  
\<beep\>Cheese .45 &lt;beep&gt;Olives .39  
\<beep\>pickles .25 &lt;beep&gt;Tomato .37

So maybe I pay $.17 extra for the two items I didnt want on my order, eh screw it. I am paying more for convenience anyway

All of that takes time to ring up. Even a few more seconds time thousands of transactions = many man hours. Man hours saved = less labor and more customers helped per hour. Imagine just for sake of scale if subway could shave 1 second off of each sandwich nationwide. What would the labor savings be.

So it comes down to

Screw a few unfortunate people like yourself or provide better service to the other millions of customers a week.  
If I was the CEO of Subway I would probably make the same decision.

Also they build all of their food cost calculations based on a worst case scenario cost wise (all condiments, most expensive meat/cheese/bread, etc) this way they can plan their business without going (smack forehead) “Damn we didnt plan for everyone ordering onions.” The fact that you omit something gives them a little more breathing room financially and they are not going to give you that back over $.02 worth of onions.

You want a sandwich that you only pay for whats on it go to the store and buy your own stuff, make your own damn sandwich.

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**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2001, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/67 "2001-09-01T18:37:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by that\_darn\_cat \*  
> I second the Italian roll sentiment, they can’t do it right in Pittsburgh. And they think a cheesesteak is a big burger with fries and coleslaw on it. _shudder_ \*\*

Oh, that is a cheesesteak, my friend, a Primanti Brothers cheesesteak, the finest example of cheesesteak there is. Of course, to properly appreciate a Primanti’s hoagie, one must be drunk at 2:00 a.m. the first time they eat one. After that, they all taste good- the keilbasa, the fish, the capacola, the pastrami, the egg and bacon. Of course, the coleslaw must have viniger and oil on it, not creamy slaw dressing. That would be disgusting.

I took my little brother for his first Primanti’s. When asked what he wanted, he said the words “Philly cheesesteak”. I thought we were going to get thrown out.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2001, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/68 "2001-09-01T19:31:20Z")

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Only been to Primanti’s (Or Primannees, in Pittsburghese) once, and got the cheese fries. Yummy.

I prefer Klavon’s gyros, myself.

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**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2001, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/69 "2001-09-01T20:48:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Demise \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> > \*\*And um, what IS a BMT? \*\*
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> It stands for Boston-Manhattan Transfer, an old subway line…at least according to Subway lore. It’s a nauseating sandwich that consists of baloney, ham, and pepperoni. Nasty. \*\*

:eek: ???

Maybe in _your_ market, but around here:

BMT= “Big Meaty Taste” Pepperoni, Salami & Ham

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**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2001, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/70 "2001-09-01T21:17:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> **Only been to Primanti’s (Or Primannees, in Pittsburghese) once, and got the cheese fries. Yummy.**

They are good cheese fries, but I think that the cheese fries at the O are the best. But, again, it helps if it is late at night and one is drunk.

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**Author:** ![steeljaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@steeljaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steeljaw)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2001, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/71 "2001-09-01T21:33:07Z")

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Uuuuuuuuhhhh, yeah, hi. I’ll have a 12" meatball. Only I want it cut into 2.8 inch segments and each of those cut diagonally with rounded corners. Oh, and instead of meatballs I want roastbeef and lettuce with taco shells crumbled on top. And then put lots and lots and lots and lots of parmesan cheese on it… but not too much. And how about some diet american cheese too. And a soda. I want easy on the ice and mix three sodas so that it is orange and tastes like Dr. Pepper. Now how much will that be?.. Oh, ok. I’ll be up to the window in a second, just let me find my bag of pennies.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2001, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/72 "2001-09-02T01:47:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by drachillix \*  
> You want a sandwich that you only pay for whats on it go to the store and buy your own stuff, make your own damn sandwich. \*\*

Hey, I get that you pay X for the sandwich no matter which of the standard toppings you choose, but I have a problem being charged for an extra slice of cheese on a sandwich that has most of the toppings left off in the first place!

Couldn’t they consider the extra slice to be in place of the toppings I’ve rejected? Apparently, no.

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**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2001, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/73 "2001-09-02T08:57:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by rastahomie \*  
> \*\*:eek: ???
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> Maybe in _your_ market, but around here:
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> BMT= “Big Meaty Taste” Pepperoni, Salami & Ham \*\*

Heh. Maybe it’s _your_ market that’s the fucked up one. 😛

“Big Meaty Taste”? Sounds like an after-the-fact rationalization if I’ve ever heard one. However, seeing as my experience is a decade out of date, I bow to your modern Subway knowledge.

Replacing the baloney with salami ups the fat content considerably too…I never was able to eat more than a bite of a Spicy Italian sub without being thoroughly disgusted.

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**Author:** ![Doc\_Nickel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@Doc\_Nickel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doc_Nickel)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2001, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/74 "2001-09-02T10:35:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by steeljaw \*  
> \*\*Uuuuuuuuhhhh, yeah, hi. I’ll have a 12" meatball. Only I want it cut into 2.8 inch segments and each of those cut diagonally with rounded corners. Oh, and instead of meatballs I want roastbeef and lettuce with taco shells crumbled on top. And then put lots and lots and lots and lots of parmesan cheese on it… but not too much. And how about some diet american cheese too. And a soda. I want easy on the ice and mix three sodas so that it is orange and tastes like Dr. Pepper. Now how much will that be?.. Oh, ok. I’ll be up to the window in a second, just let me find my bag of pennies. \*\*

-Very good sir. One of our artisans will be out front presently to _install_ the remaining .29" of your sandwich for you. I’m sure you’re familiar with the concept of a ‘suppository’?

How fortunate for you we rounded the corners.

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2001, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/75 "2001-09-03T02:18:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by cazzle \*
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> Couldn’t they consider the extra slice to be in place of the toppings I’ve rejected? Apparently, no. \*\*

The meat and cheese are the most expensive part of the sandwich. As I recall from my pizza days we paid about 2.50 a pound for most of our meats/cheeses on average. The veggie on the other hand are pocket change I think we paid .60 a pound. Typical fast food places run about 20% food cost. So a $5.00 sandwich has $1.00 of food at their cost. If cheese is 2.00 a pound and you want an extra ounce of cheese thats an extra .06 in food cost translating to .30 in retail price. Veggies at an average of like .50 a pound are far less of a concern, you would have to work at piling enough lettuce on a sandwich to rate an extra charge.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2001, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/76 "2001-09-03T02:20:32Z")

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I went and got my chicken sandwich today. I ate all 12 inches in one sitting-yummy.

God, that sounds dirty…😃

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2001, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/77 "2001-09-03T06:22:58Z")

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I guess I just live right. At my local Subway I have not one, not two, not three, but four different employees who all know my sandwich. This is off my going in twice a week before classes. Every so often one of them will ask if I want hot peppers but all in all they do me right. They’ll even cut my bread the old-fashioned way if I want (it’s called a “u-gouge” for those who are interested).

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2001, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/78 "2001-09-03T11:35:30Z")

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Oh hell. Just do what I do at Carl’s Jr.: write it on a piece of paper and pretend you’re deaf. (Sorry, **handy**.)

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**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/79 "2001-09-04T03:33:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Otto \*  
> \*\*They’ll even cut my bread the old-fashioned way if I want (it’s called a “u-gouge” for those who are interested). \*\*

So, if modern Subways don’t cut their bread like this now, how the hell do the meatballs stay in the sandwich?

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**Author:** ![BigGiantHead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b4bc9f/32.png) [@BigGiantHead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigGiantHead)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-come-to-subway/79024/80 "2001-09-04T04:47:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Demise \*  
> **…“Big Meaty Taste”? Sounds like an after-the-fact rationalization if I’ve ever heard one. However, seeing as my experience is a decade out of date, I bow to your modern Subway knowledge.**

Don’t do it, Demise! Stand proud and fight the power! Look around you, ferchrissake, when you’re in that Sub emporium. They got the _name_ **Subway** from the below-earth rail system of the earth’s finest city, the place so nice they named it twice, NY, NY! Of COURSE BMT is a reference to the transfer line you mentioned.

[sub]“Big Meaty Taste” indeed… grumblegrumblegrumble. Why’in’t they just make it “MEETY”!!!..

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