# When you say you 'hate' Trump, what do you mean? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 12, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355 "2016-10-12T20:36:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/1 "2016-10-12T20:36:22Z")
Dammit forgot the poll, sorry! ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/2 "2016-10-12T20:40:29Z")
Despise him personally, because of his odious character, and oppose him politically, because of his dangerous plans and proposals. Also, he scares me, and his ideas are directly personally threatening to me. I hate him the way I hate tyranny and bigotry. ---
**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/3 "2016-10-12T20:49:19Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Despise him personally, because of his odious character, and oppose him politically, because of his dangerous plans and proposals. Also, he scares me, and his ideas are directly personally threatening to me. I hate him the way I hate tyranny and bigotry. Thanks Trinopus, but this thread is supposed to have a poll with it, it doesn’t make much sense otherwise _(its more about the meaning of hatred than Trump himself)_ I’ve sent a message to a moderator to have it closed. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/4 "2016-10-12T20:50:53Z")
I don’t “hate” him. I hate what he wants to do to this country, what he is capable of doing to this country, and I hate how close he is coming to accomplishing both. I think he needs serious psychiatric help. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/5 "2016-10-12T21:59:54Z")
He’s never been in a position to do anything to me personally so I have no reason to hate him. I’m scared of what he can do as president even though I know better than him what the limits of presidential power are. What he can do unilaterally is bad enough. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/6 "2016-10-12T22:19:41Z")
Hate is a strong word, but I think he has NPD which makes him an odious, abusive hypocrite. that makes me really detest him, but the best way to deal with a cluster B type who is fucking up your life is to cut them off, not get revenge. Having said that, if he gets sued into oblivion due to the fraud he is suspected of in Trump University, and he dies in prison (due to either one of the rape allegations, one of the electoral felonies he is accused of, one of the forms of fraud he is accused of) I will consider it justice. I find his personality revolting, but more than that I am really disappointed that someone as dangerous and incompetent as him got this far in politics. It says a lot about the electorate in this country. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/7 "2016-10-12T22:44:24Z")
Hate him? I \*dislike \*him, think he’s just full of shit, see his campaign welcoming the extremists in the “basket of deplorables” as a sign of lack of moral compass, am truly saddened for the many who are being seduced by a demagoguery that is never going to deliver for them, fear the damage he is doing to the social contract that sustains the Republic and condemn the political hacks who let him do so in a craven quest to keep their own power, and hold him as proof that being born into money and having an Ivy League schooling means jacksquat in terms of the quality of a person’s character. Hate, though? Meh… he’s not worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/8 "2016-10-12T22:56:33Z")
> [@Disposable Hero](#): > > Dammit forgot the poll, sorry! For future reference, if you go to thread tools and click on “start a poll for this thread”, you can start a poll after you’ve posted the OP. But I think there’s a 5 minute window that allows you to do this. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/9 "2016-10-12T23:34:30Z")
It means that you hate a lot of things/people, and say so often. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/10 "2016-10-12T23:44:11Z")
Hatred is born of Fear. I fear what Trump could do, if he were trusted with the Atomic Arsenal. I fear Trump’s practices, that dovetail with Authoritarianism. I fear any man with political power, that has little skill in listening to others. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/11 "2016-10-13T00:41:01Z")
Donald Trump: You despise me, don’t you? Rick Blaine: If I gave you any thought I probably would. . . . . . Personally, my view is that as long as he never, ever gets to wield the machinery of state, we’re good. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/12 "2016-10-13T00:45:41Z")
It is more than not wanting him to win the election; something in his basic personality has irked me since he became a public figure ages ago. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/13 "2016-10-13T11:53:47Z")
If I’m sitting at a bar drinking a beer, and a Trump-like person sits down next to me and begins talking, I get the bartender’s attention and let him/her know I’m relocating, then I move. It has happened. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/14 "2016-10-13T12:36:37Z")
I don’t hate anybody, or at least I try not to. I would never vote for Trump for anything, don’t think he should ever have received the nomination, and everything he has done since getting the nom has been bad for the GOP and the country, I hope and expect that he will lose badly in the general election, and I hope his only legacy is a party that reforms itself such that it will never let him or anyone like him within shouting distance of their nomination. If I ever said that I hate him, that is what I mean. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![jsquire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce73a5/32.png) [@jsquire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsquire)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/15 "2016-10-13T23:26:34Z")
I am less afraid of him than I am of his followers. Many of them possess the potential for lashing out in violence and Trump is only encouraging them. Things could get ugly between now and election day, and maybe afterwards too. As for Trump personally, I think he’s finally going to face consequences for his actions both in a court of law and the court of public opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/16 "2016-10-14T15:23:36Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > Hatred is born of Fear. > > I fear what Trump could do, if he were trusted with the Atomic Arsenal. > I fear Trump’s practices, that dovetail with Authoritarianism. > I fear any man with political power, that has little skill in listening to others. They say there are strangers who threaten us In our immigrants and infidels They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves That those who know what’s best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves Quick to judge Quick to anger Slow to understand Ignorance and prejudice And fear walk hand in hand… As with all things in life, there is a Rush quote for that. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/17 "2016-10-14T15:31:02Z")
I hate his example, which shows that to succeed all you need to do is boss everybody around and take credit. You don’t need to know the facts or make any mental effort to get followers. You just have to display wealth and bluster and let the underlings clean up the shit you spewed. Honesty and integrity are for suckers and victims who can’t succeed on the highest levels. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/18 "2016-10-14T16:36:45Z")
I fear Trump. He is not worth the effort of hating. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/19 "2016-10-14T16:43:56Z")
I don’t HATE the guy. Never met him. And I know that who you are in front of a mike, trying to sway a crowd, is not who you are in the dark. Although it seems to me that a guy who gets legal paperwork forbidding any of his employees to talk about him… or throws lawyers and frivolous lawsuits around to punish those who talk, but didn’t sign anything… …is just a bit of an ass. At the MOMENT, I hate the fact that I can’t go to any of my favorite blogs or news sites or Facebook or ANY damn thing without everyone screaming TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP at me. Sure, I keep up with the news, but there are times I don’t WANT to look at news, much less hear about Trump’s poisonous utterances or HILLARY IS A CHILD MOLESTER or what some pundit has to SAY about Trump, blah blah blah. I hate the fact that the very concept of civility is under siege because apparently about a third of the country seems to think that if a rich ass is behaving this way, it must be acceptable. I hate the fact that about a third of the country seems to think that if a rich ass got that way by screwing everyone within reach and then laughing about it, it must be acceptable. I hate the fact that vicious slander and poisonous public relations tricks and publicity and dark money funded smoke and mirrors are more important than what’s good for the country and its people, because the whole idea of compromise and sharing power and checks and balances are simply no longer acceptable. I hate the whole Tea Party concept that legitimized the idea that political extremism is an acceptable way to gain and use political power, solely to the benefit of one’s base. I hate the idea that a politician is anything less than a servant of ALL the American people, as opposed to “I will serve my base and undermine “Those People,” because my base hates them.” I hate the fact that apparently, the American government can simply no longer function unless the party in power is appeased. Not all of this is Trump’s fault, of course. Rather, it’s the other way around: these trends are what led to Trump becoming a presidential candidate. And I hate that. I recall the first Republican debate, way back before the convention, and they had a SLEW of wannabees up there. Rubio, Bush, Cruz, Carson, and several others. Trump would not even have been my LAST choice – Carson seems downright delusional at times, and Cruz veers between “slimy” and “zealot” way too often for my taste – but there were better candidates than Trump up there onstage. And the GOP … for reasons unclear… went with Trump. Perhaps it was because his numbers were strong. Perhaps it was because his extremist message resonated with the Tea Party end of the GOP. And no doubt, they thought he’d play ball once they got him on board. And now, near as I can tell, if he can’t be president of America, he will do whatever he can to punish those who did not support him… if only by tying up the media to tell us all what traitors we are, how he’s gonna sue everybody, and how much HE hates US. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355/20 "2016-10-14T17:08:51Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > They say there are strangers who threaten us > In our immigrants and infidels > They say there is strangeness too dangerous > In our theaters and bookstore shelves > That those who know what’s best for us > Must rise and save us from ourselves > > Quick to judge > Quick to anger > Slow to understand > Ignorance and prejudice > And fear walk hand in hand… > > As with all things in life, there is a Rush quote for that. Wow! Maybe I’ve been misjudging Limbaugh all these years. 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-you-say-you-hate-trump-what-do-you-mean/768355.md?page=2)