# When your spelling lets you down.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 1, 2008, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835 "2008-02-01T08:27:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/1 "2008-02-01T08:27:12Z")

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I have always considered myself (and indeed have a reputation amongst those who know me) as a bit of a wordsmith. My writing and spelling skills have been called upon on many occasions to (for example) help edit essays and to assist in crossword impasses. I’m _never_ wrong, of course, and those who I assist are suitably grateful for my input.

Until yesterday. I was doing the crossword at work, and got to a hurdle _myself._ The clue was ‘HATRED’ and the answer was a six letter word…with the second letter ‘N’ and the last two ‘TY’. I asked some of my coworkers and they jumped in with ENMITY…but I corrected them gently, saying, “It’s not fucken ENmity, it’s EMnity you mouthbreathers. Try another word.” 😃

So I got home and googled [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com) just to be absolutely certain I was correct in my put-down of them, and whaddya know!! I was dead wrong, and they were right. I have tendered my humblest apologies to my coworkers and have thanked them for alleviating my ignorance, but they just blew raspberries at me. 😃

Anyway, what I want to know is: how many of you have gone years and years making a spelling or grammatical mistake without realising it, or without someone else picking it up?

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/2 "2008-02-01T09:43:39Z")

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I too try to spell correctly and use words as intended.  
As I’m a teacher, my implication is clear (and my pupils can infer what they like from that!)  
Why I even know that a contradictory oxymoron is a tautology. 🙂

Yet I too thought it was ‘emnity’… :eek:

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/3 "2008-02-01T10:00:06Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]

Yet I too thought it was ‘emnity’… :eek:  
[/QUOTE]

Thankyou **glee**. When one of _your_ Doper and academic status fucks up like me, I feel less embarrassed by the mistake.

😉

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/4 "2008-02-01T10:17:06Z")

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[QUOTE=kambuckta]  
Thankyou **glee**. When one of _your_ Doper and academic status fucks up like me, I feel less embarrassed by the mistake.

😉  
[/QUOTE]

You’re most kind. :o

However I should reveal that I checked your spelling of ‘embarrassed’ , unworthily hoping for a mistake ☹ , so I could make a further post pointing that out.  
I believe the word for this is schadnefreude (defined as malicious **glee** 🙂 )

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**Author:** ![Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bites_when_provoked/32/18073_2.png) [@Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bites_When_Provoked)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/5 "2008-02-01T12:17:56Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
I believe the word for this is schadnefreude (defined as malicious **glee** 🙂 )  
[/QUOTE]  
Was that a whoosh? (schad **en** freude)

Either way, it’s a funny joke! 😃

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**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/6 "2008-02-02T00:11:47Z")

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I used to think that “it’s” meant “it is” and that “its” was the possessive, but then I got on this forum and learned that I am apparently about the only one here that thinks so.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/7 "2008-02-02T00:19:12Z")

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Apparently, when I’m typing I can’t conjugate verbs properly. For example, a couple weeks ago I posted this to another forum:

> [@](#):
>
> Well, the parser generator is self-hosting, so I guess that’s a pretty good indication that **it’s work**. Cool.

It’s not like I’m illiterate and don’t know that it’s supposed to be “it’s working”, but I just keep adding or removing random suffixes from verbs all the freaking time.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/8 "2008-02-02T00:24:37Z")

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I’m glad you started this thread. I need to download a spellchecker. That will solve some of the problem. The dumbass sentance structure, it won’t help a bit.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/9 "2008-02-02T00:39:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Omegaman]  
I’m glad you started this thread. I need to download a spellchecker. That will solve some of the problem. The dumbass sentance structure, it won’t help a bit.  
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Firefox has a spellchecker built in.

It doesn’t recognize the word “spellchecker”, though.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/10 "2008-02-02T04:37:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Bites When Provoked]  
Was that a whoosh? (schad **en** freude)

Either way, it’s a funny joke! 😃  
[/QUOTE]

Typing error. :o (I was concentrating on making the pun on my username…)

[QUOTE=Ignatz]  
I used to think that “it’s” meant “it is” and that “its” was the possessive, but then I got on this forum and learned that I am apparently about the only one here that thinks so.

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What is your evidence for that? 😕

‘It’s’ is an accepted shortening of ‘it is’.  
Because this abbreviation exists, people get confused with possessive. ‘His’, ‘hers’ and ‘its’ don’t have apostrophes.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/11 "2008-02-02T05:08:00Z")

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For the first twenty years of my adult life, I thought that “hoi polloi” meant the elite. It sure sounds like it does.

Good thing that I rarely had the opportunity to use it in conversation.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/12 "2008-02-02T07:07:27Z")

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How about when you start misspelling your name… on a form at work?

:smack:

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/13 "2008-02-02T07:25:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Kythereia]  
How about when you start misspelling your name… on a form at work?

:smack:  
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For some reason I’ve been mis-writing stuff lately, stuff that I hand write. I just don’t write much anymore. And when I’m signing checks or signing a note I have been making a horrible mess out of my name lately. My name ends in a “dt” and the other day I wrote “tt” and crossed them both!

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**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/14 "2008-02-02T07:52:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane]  
For the first twenty years of my adult life, I thought that “hoi polloi” meant the elite. It sure sounds like it does.

Good thing that I rarely had the opportunity to use it in conversation.  
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(raises hand, timorously) Me too. Yes, it does. Ditto.

I will refrain from jokes about it turning out to mean something more – mundane.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/15 "2008-02-02T15:04:45Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
What is your evidence for that? 😕

‘It’s’ is an accepted shortening of ‘it is’.  
Because this abbreviation exists, people get confused with possessive. ‘His’, ‘hers’ and ‘its’ don’t have apostrophes.  
[/QUOTE]  
ummm. . . whoooosh?

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**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/16 "2008-02-02T15:21:42Z")

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Watch for misspellings of “weird” in any number of threads here by some of our smartest Dopers. Some of them do it regularly.

It’s all very wierd.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/17 "2008-02-02T15:25:48Z")

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Call me crazy, but I’ve noticed a distinct falling off of my spelling abilities ever since I hit 40. I find myself looking up the simplest of words, repeatedly. It’s most likely early senility. Gah.

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/18 "2008-02-02T16:53:24Z")

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The “enmity” example in the OP has never been a problem – considering the spelling of “enemy”. The two just get linked. I know enough never to state I’m 100% right about a spelling example, unless it’s a common monosyllablic word or I’m within inches of a dictionary. Typos, on the other hand, can be a right bother.

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**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/19 "2008-02-02T17:12:48Z")

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[QUOTE=eleanorigby]  
Call me crazy, but I’ve noticed a distinct falling off of my spelling abilities ever since I hit 40. I find myself looking up the simplest of words, repeatedly. It’s most likely early senility. Gah.  
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But all of your posts that I’ve read are crystal clear and well constructed. Stop with the worrying, already.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-spelling-lets-you-down/435835/20 "2008-02-02T17:17:25Z")

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I’ve been an ace speller all my life. Never bee-level, because I never studied the kind of super-obscure curveball words that turn up on the bees. But I was good enough to talk my 6th grade teacher into trusting me that _imperfect_ wasn’t actually spelled _i **n** perfect_.

Still, we’re all inperfect. 🙂 The one that gets me most often is _idiosyncrasy_, which I always thought should end in _-cracy_. All these -cracy words (demo, aristo, etc.) and only the one -crasy? -Crazy.
