# Where are all the election deniers hiding?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 11, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758 "2022-11-11T18:20:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/101 "2022-11-15T18:10:08Z")

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Got any that _aren’t_ far right wing MAGA opinion pieces?

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/102 "2022-11-15T18:10:25Z")

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They are openly and publicly trying to do it though. We just had (losing) GOP candidates for governor and secretary of state promising to make sure the republicans win in 2024. The (losing) Wisconsin GOP candidate for governor promised that if he won no Democrat would ever win in Wisconsin again.

They have been openly promising to steal the 2024 election in public, campaigning on it even.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/103 "2022-11-15T18:12:37Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> She still hasn’t conceded the previous election, as far as I know. That puts her firmly in the “election denier” camp.

She has openly and publicly congratulated Kemp on his reelection. Not remotely an election denier. You may have had a point about Abrams at one point in time, but it’s time to give it up. It’s over.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/104 "2022-11-15T18:19:25Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Hillary Clinton says ‘right wing’ might steal 2024 election and other outrageous stories ([carolinajournal.com](http://carolinajournal.com))

This is something Clinton said October '22 when Republican candidates like Kari Lake, Doug Mastriano, and Jim Marchant were running for positions that had control over elections and campaigning on ignoring election results they didn’t like.

She had a legitimate concern about the right wing stealing the 2024 election, because they were promising to do that if elected.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/105 "2022-11-15T18:23:51Z")

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Like I said, there are many cites available. Pick one.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/106 "2022-11-15T18:25:26Z")

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No. If you can’t provide a single legitimate _news_ piece that backs up what you say, why should I waste my time on your highly questionable list?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/107 "2022-11-15T18:25:50Z")

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Just sayin’, D, you’re not making very strong cases here or in the Elon Musk/Twitter thread. Hillary Clinton? Really? 2016 called, they want their right-wing target back.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/108 "2022-11-15T18:29:13Z")

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As I said, there are numerous reports, including from Newsweek and ABC News.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/109 "2022-11-15T18:30:00Z")

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Pick one, since it is YOUR claim.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/110 "2022-11-15T18:36:33Z")

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Not doing a google search for you. I’m sure you can manage.

Another poster asked for a cite, I provided one out of a long list. If it’s not to your liking, find a different one.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/111 "2022-11-15T18:38:44Z")

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Providing a gish-gallop of garbage links is not in any way “providing a cite”.

Give it up. “Argle bargle Hillary” is not a convincing rebuttal.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/112 "2022-11-15T18:42:54Z")

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[Newsweek.com](http://Newsweek.com) is a garbage link? Good to know.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/113 "2022-11-15T18:43:35Z")

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I will take this as an admission that you do not have a legitimate news source for your claim, and leave it at that. If at a later time you come up with a legitimate source for your claim, I will take a look at it.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/114 "2022-11-15T18:44:13Z")

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The Newsweek cite that came up pretty much backs up what @Lance_Turbo said: Hillary is reacting to what Republican candidates said before the election in regards to state legislatures unilaterally throwing votes tallies out and declaring a winner. If anything, the _Republicans_ are “election deniers,” in that they are planning to circumvent the will of the people. So, this supposed “cite” of yours just scuttled your argument.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/115 "2022-11-15T18:46:01Z")

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Newsweek and ABC News aren’t legitimate news sources?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/116 "2022-11-15T18:47:11Z")

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Once again, do your own homework.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/117 "2022-11-15T18:48:41Z")

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Biden literally gave two prime time speeches saying the same thing Hillary said. What the hell are you going on about complaining about Hillary?

Don’t answer that. I just wanted to point out to the reader how baseless and out of touch your argument is.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/118 "2022-11-15T18:54:24Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Biden literally gave two prime time speeches saying the same thing Hillary said.

So add him to the election denier camp, as well. Interesting that he doesn’t remember what he had for breakfast, but he knows what’s going to happen two years from now.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/119 "2022-11-15T19:02:57Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> So add him to the election denier camp, as well. Interesting that he doesn’t remember what he had for breakfast, but he knows what’s going to happen two years from now.

🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/120 "2022-11-15T19:04:31Z")

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They were saying it out loud. They were campaigning on it.

Remarking on right wing campaign promises is not election denial.

Most both sides arguments are dog shit, but this one in particular has several rungs of the ladder to climb before it gets to the position where it can aspire to be dog shit.

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