# Where are all the election deniers hiding? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 11, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758 "2022-11-11T18:20:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/121 "2022-11-15T19:09:33Z")
I guess the takeaway here is that Republicans should be allowed to promise to their voters that they will overturn future elections, but Democrats should not be allowed to comment on it. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/122 "2022-11-15T19:13:25Z")
---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/123 "2022-11-15T19:17:05Z")
# The Hillary Cite back and forth needs to end. It has overwhelmed the thread. If you want to continue it, start a new thread, preferably in the Pit but if you can keep it civil in P&E. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/124 "2022-11-15T19:58:03Z")
This topic was automatically opened after 44 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/125 "2022-11-15T20:46:57Z")
This is off topic, but it might be information you’re not aware of. Newsweek was sold in 2014 to the IB Times, and it’s been garbage ever since. They basically slapped the name on low-effort web articles that regurgitate whatever drives traffic, much like a for-profit degree mill buying up local accredited universities to squeeze out what they can of the entity’s reputation. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/126 "2022-11-15T20:52:45Z")
If they’re “hiding”, Kari Lake is the worst hide-and-seek player ever. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/127 "2022-11-15T21:19:09Z")
Heard on the news this afternoon that Adam Laxalt has finally conceded. He said something like, _“A challenge won’t change the results”_. Not exactly a denial, but you could smell it if the wind was right. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/128 "2022-11-15T21:24:29Z")
Oddly enough Masters has actually conceded. He’s now washed up as far as politics are concerned, no true believer would ever give up. > **[Blake Masters concedes Sen. Mark Kelly's victory, ending a crucial Arizona...](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2022/11/15/blake-masters-concedes-mark-kelly-ending-arizona-senate-race/10703708002/)** > > Republican Senate candidate Blake Masters congratulated Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., on his reelection. ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/129 "2022-11-15T21:48:33Z")
I guess that republican hat wearing guy saying that, if elected, Arizona will never go Blue again no matter what and that he was going to colude with other states officials to do the same – is just hysteria to think he would do what he says. C’mon D\_Anconia…you are not dumb. You know exactly what was going on. I am starting to think you are a bit…dishonest. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/130 "2022-11-15T22:12:29Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Can the far–right “deplorables” be induced to crawl back under their rock to be ignored for another 30 years? Will they be so induced? They haven’t been ignored the last 30 years. Why should you expect them to disappear now? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/131 "2022-11-15T22:51:53Z")
I don’t. That was essentially a rhetorical question. As in > Getting the deplorables back under their rock is a precondition for sensible conservatism to make a reappearance in Republican party politics. The deplorables are mostly spun up by for-profit propaganda mongers who will lose vast revenue if the deplorables are permitted to go dormant. > > Since nobody paying attention can sensibly have any expectation the for-profit propaganda machine will be switched off any time soon, they also know sensible conservatism won’t make a reappearance any time soon. Sorry to be unclear. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/132 "2022-11-15T23:20:50Z")
**Modnote** : This is over the line. Attacking the poster and not his posts. Please do not do this again. ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/133 "2022-11-16T13:31:55Z")
I didn’t see what is written here, but I shouldn’t have said I was thinking someone might be being dishonest. If a mod wants to pull that sentence, I am perfectly fine with it. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/134 "2022-11-29T03:19:02Z")
> **[Lawsuits likely after handful of counties refuse to certify midterm results](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/28/lawsuits-certifying-midterm-election-results-2022-00070992)** > > County board members in Arizona and Pennsylvania declined Monday to certify the election. > At least two counties on Monday voted to not certify their respective county elections: Cochise County in Arizona, where county supervisors voted 2-1 to delay certification until at least Friday, beyond the Monday statutory deadline, and Luzerne County in Pennsylvania, where the county board deadlocked 2-2 on a certification vote, with one abstention who later said he would vote to certify at a future meeting. > “Absent this Court’s intervention, the Secretary will have no choice but to complete the statewide canvass by December 8 without Cochise County’s votes included,” attorneys for Hobbs These people are ready to disenfranchise the whole county, which voted for Lake by double digit points, just to throw a hissy fit. Seems counter productive to me. It will only lower statewide R totals, the rest of the votes will be certified anyway, and they risk adverse actions personally for refusing to carry out lawful orders. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/135 "2022-11-29T03:44:43Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > These people are ready to disenfranchise the whole county, which voted for Lake by double digit points, just to throw a hissy fit. Seems counter productive to me. Oh I don’t see it that way. They know Lake lost decisively. But by pulling this, they can claim that the Republican-heavy county was left out which gives another talking point for those insisting on vote fraud. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/136 "2022-11-29T04:37:35Z")
> Our county’s vote was stolen from us by the Librul conspiracy. Time to march on Phoenix with our pitchforks, torches, and AK-47s. That’s the message the Cochise County Board of Supervisors wants to send. It’ll sell well to their constituency. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/137 "2022-11-29T13:34:51Z")
Republican: “The system doesn’t work!” [System works fine] [Republican deliberately fucks up the system] “See! I told you! The system doesn’t work!” We’ve seen this a thousand times, in a hundred contexts, over the past decade or more. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/138 "2022-11-29T14:14:05Z")
Remember when the Gore/Lieberman ticket was ridiculed as Sore/Loserman? We had no idea what crybabies really were until we saw republicans lose legitimate elections. If democracy doesn’t give them power, they’ll steal it. Simple as that. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/139 "2022-12-01T21:40:15Z")
Welp! > ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758/140 "2022-12-01T21:58:41Z")
Good to see, but the Judge needs to have a plan for when they certify it in favor of someone who very obviously and very publicly lost. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-all-the-election-deniers-hiding/974758.md?page=8)