# Where are the liberal trolls? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 30, 2014, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012 "2014-10-30T15:00:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/101 "2014-10-31T18:41:18Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > It was a mistake for you to cut up that post and comment line-by-line. Each individual sentence was made in context of the larger point of the post, and your comments all miss the boat. > > I appreciate that your political identity is important to you but it means nothing to me, and I’m only discussing how to measure your overall position with specific regard to how it would be received by members of this board. My political identity, such as it is, is not important to me. I just don’t like it so much when someone tries to significantly mischaracterize it. Anyway, this discussion is a hijack of the thread, so I’m going to drop it. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/102 "2014-10-31T19:16:49Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Then, every single Republican mentioned in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831) – in most cases simply quoted/cited directly – is No True Conservative? Any description you or one of the other loonies give for Republicans and their positions should be presumed false until proven otherwise. Because you say things like this > [@](#): > > But the radical-reactionary beliefs that are called “conservative” in American discourse nowadays are never anything but extreme any more. and **Der Trihs** and the rest say things that are even more idiotic. For heaven’s sake - examples of [this are not hard to find](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=726399). Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/103 "2014-10-31T19:21:12Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > _Certain segments_ of society (such as yours?) often find truth to be inconvenient or even hostile to their preferred beliefs. > > But that’s why we’re here, isn’t it? I feel bad for people who have you on their side. ---
**Author:** ![Eddie\_F](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/22d042/32.png) [@Eddie\_F](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eddie_F)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/104 "2014-10-31T19:23:18Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > …Hang on, name me one liberal poster who sinks to the level of **Shodan**. This is precisely what I was thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Eddie\_F](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/22d042/32.png) [@Eddie\_F](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eddie_F)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/105 "2014-10-31T19:29:59Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Holier-than-thou smugness? **BrainGlutton** and everyone else. Is there anyone on this message board even a tenth as smug as you? I mean, if there is, I haven’t yet read any of their posts. > [@Shodan](#): > > I mean - come on. Exactly. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/106 "2014-10-31T19:35:29Z")
Where have all the libtrolls gone, long time passing? Where have all the libtrolls gone, long time ago? Where have all the libtrolls gone? Gone to 4chan, every one. Oh, when will they ever learn? Oh, when will they ever learn? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/107 "2014-10-31T19:44:24Z")
> [@Eddie\_F](#): > > Is there anyone on this message board even a tenth as smug as you? I mean, if there is, I haven’t yet read any of their posts. I wouldn’t say **BrainGlutton** is as smug as **Shodan** , but he often comes pretty close. The dearly departed **Dio** could summon the smugness quite well. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/108 "2014-10-31T20:16:47Z")
In terms of Liberal (or at least leftist) Troll, does anyone remember Commisar expounding on the glories of North Korea? > [@N. and S. Korea firing artillery at each other](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/n-and-s-korea-firing-artillery-at-each-other/563483/271): > > I’m not buying your argument. My default Western news source is BBC News; hardly a day goes by without a highly critical “news” article about North Korea. Most recently, I read an article entirely dedicated to unsupported rumor-mongering about alleged DPRK nuclear facilities. Given that the BBC seems to enjoy spreading anti-socialist propaganda, you really expect me to believe that it chooses to ignore the low-hanging fruit of near-border military exercises? Even when it takes ecstatic joy in reporting every single South Korean military exercise that takes place? Just take a look here: [http://www.bbc.co.uk/search/news/?q=south%20korea%20military%20exercise](http://www.bbc.co.uk/search/news/?q=south%20korea%20military%20exercise) > > Do you still wish to argue that military exercises are non-news? Very ignorant of you, my friend. Incidentally while it is the case that the board leans left, it will come down hard on any truly stupid liberal idea. Remember this thread? I can’t think of any conservative thread that had more uniform condemnation. ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2014, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/109 "2014-11-01T14:13:17Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > See my post, #16 above. My point is that a ‘troll’ may not have a political opinion, a troll might troll with provocative statements because he/she is a troll, not because they are liberal or conservative. Real trolls are only there to cause trouble, not to rile up R’s or D’s politically-oriented, left or right, people who post in a way to rile up the opposition are not what I call trolls…perhaps I’d say ‘provocateurs’ With all due respect for those who would call them trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/110 "2014-11-01T17:39:30Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > So are most places on Earth. So you think Sub-Saharran Africa, the Middle East and Asia are bastions of liberalism?:dubious: Tell me, how often have you traveled outside the US and where to? ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2014, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/111 "2014-11-01T19:06:37Z")
Ah, I find myself more irritated by … no, let me try it this way. I find I’m less annoyed by those I agree with than those with whom I disagree. I think it’s pretty rare that a post or series of posts in a thread is ever really going to change someone’s religious or political beliefs. Of course, growing up Jewish in the USA, I grew up knowing most people disagreed with me. So, I figure when appropriate, I’ll try to present my side of the argument or offer something to lessen the ignorance level. I don’t care that much if you agree or disagree with me, just that you understand my side. Unless you’re one of those ignorant sluts that think Ovation guitars are as good as or better than Martins. A scorpion pit is too good for those people, but sometimes you have to work with what you have, right? What are you gonna do? ::shrug:: ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/112 "2014-11-02T03:12:48Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > Is there a place where left-leaning idiots troll conservatives with childish responses, gotchas, and holier-than-thou smugness? This is poor quality trolling. It’s more effective to speak the language of one’s enemies clearly, and use their own worldview to tie them in knots. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/113 "2014-11-02T14:29:58Z")
I moderated the politics forum for an, um, interesting dating niche website for several years. There was one guy who was liberal and could be considered a troll. The problem was, he was also hilarious and frequently mixed in good comments with his trolling. It was tough to mod him. I’m glad there weren’t more like him… ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/114 "2014-11-02T16:32:40Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > So you think Sub-Saharran Africa, the Middle East and Asia are bastions of liberalism?:dubious: > > Tell me, how often have you traveled outside the US and where to? Indeed. Most people on the earth live in places that are less liberal than the US. But let’s not confuse facts with the needs of a certain poster to bash the US… ---
**Author:** ![Sciency](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Sciency](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sciency)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/115 "2014-11-02T21:41:07Z")
Can’t you just be in the center. Being on either extreme is never good. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/116 "2014-11-02T21:50:12Z")
Extremism in defense of liberty… ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/117 "2014-11-03T00:55:22Z")
Really? Because I see a lot of nasty sniping and smugness from liberals on this board. It’s different because they’re dominant and “right.” That said, I was kind of a leftie troll here (not usually consciously trying to troll, just letting my metaphorical mouth run too much) before I got dogpiled for saying something foolish about Jews, and left the board. So there you go? You probably won’t see any actual Communists on this board, it’s too hostile. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012/118 "2014-11-03T01:06:20Z")
(And yes, I took it badly, I’m a big baby, _yada yada._ I don’t want to relive that.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-liberal-trolls/703012.md?page=5)