# Where are the ugly female rock stars?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 14, 2000, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173 "2000-11-14T17:31:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2000, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/21 "2000-11-14T23:20:17Z")

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Which Go-Go did you like? I’m partial to Jane. She and Martha Quinn are in the perpetually cute club.

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**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2000, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/22 "2000-11-14T23:25:11Z")

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**Tiffany** ’s looking pretty butt these days.

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/23 "2000-11-15T00:25:31Z")

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She isn’t exactly a rock star, but Carly Simon is as ugly as they come.

I second Mama Cass and Barbra Streisand.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/24 "2000-11-15T00:53:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bernse \*  
> **That “large” type person from Wilson-Philips**

She’s no longer large, and indeed quite the stunner.

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**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/25 "2000-11-15T02:04:40Z")

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On the above answers, 2 of the 5 Gogo’s are hot. Belinda Carlyle and the brunette pixie who writes the songs. Melissa Ethridge I find attractive in a girl-next-door kind of way. Plus she rocks (or rocked). Lisa Loeb is chic plain. She’s cute but is going for a dorky look.

I think of the Heart girls as a good contrast of attractive women. The guitar player has aged, but still looks tough and sexy. The singer, originally kind of hot, is now really large.  
Patty Smith is no looker, but she has a stage presence. Janis Joplin was like that, she shined on stage.

The

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**Author:** ![ChiefScott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@ChiefScott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChiefScott)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/26 "2000-11-15T02:33:20Z")

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1. Donna Godshaux
2. Momma Cass
3. Janis Joplin

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/27 "2000-11-15T03:27:38Z")

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I dunno…a number of folks are dumping on '60s-era rock goddesses without remembering that that long straight ironed hair, no-makeup, braless and fairly dumpy look was considered quite the thing in those days.

**Chief,** Donna Jean Godchaux (for all the “Scarlet Begonias” she spoiled with her caterwauling) wasn’t that bad lookin’…remember what KEITH looked like, for god’s sake.

And yeah, Janis was no raving beauty, but I’ll bet she moved like a greased mink in the sack.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/28 "2000-11-15T03:51:32Z")

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It used to be that female vocalists didn’t have to be pretty as long as they could sing. But these days, you could never have somebody like Ella Fitzgerald rise to stardom, or Bessie Smith, or Ma Rainey.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/29 "2000-11-15T04:02:34Z")

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Don’t dump on the Bangles! Susanna Hoffs had enough beauty for all of them! Those eyes . . . I just melt.

I never actually listened to Bangles music either, just liked looking at Susanna.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/30 "2000-11-15T04:08:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ukulele Ike \*  
> **I dunno…a number of folks are dumping on '60s-era rock goddesses without remembering that that long straight ironed hair, no-makeup, braless and fairly dumpy look was considered quite the thing in those days.**

The first photo of Grace Slick I ever saw was of her crammed into a Girl Scout uniform. I was a Boy Scout at the time and IT REALLY, TRULY WORKED. Shit, she woulda turned **Esprix** on!

Carly Simon was built in such a way that looking like Mick Jagger was only a small liability. In fact, that toothy, and toothsome, smile…

Alanis Morrisette and Melissa Etheridge are nice in a human sorta way. You’da thought they were cute if you knew them IRL.

Courtney Love, OTOH, I’ve never seen the appeal. Seen partially nude photos and I ask “Why?”

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/31 "2000-11-15T04:46:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by dropzone \*  
> **The first photo of Grace Slick I ever saw was of her crammed into a Girl Scout uniform.**

Ummmmmmmm, **drop,** you wouldn’t happen to have a COPY of that photo, wouldja?

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**Author:** ![Eo\_Echo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ebca7d/32.png) [@Eo\_Echo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eo_Echo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/32 "2000-11-15T05:36:07Z")

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Ever see the Lunachicks? Good band, but they are _heinous!_

Lisa Loeb is a hottie. Those granny glasses can’t hide the fact that she’s got a great body.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/33 "2000-11-15T13:12:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by dropzone \*  
> \*\*  
> Courtney Love, OTOH, I’ve never seen the appeal. Seen partially nude photos and I ask “Why?”
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‘Partially nude’ photos? Where??? Something about that woman really gets me going.

But for ugly, we got:  
The Indigo Girls  
Patti Smith (of 70’s hard rock/punk, not Patti Smyth)  
Ann Wilson, who was once the woman of dreams, but now rivals Marlon Brando in size

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/34 "2000-11-15T13:20:13Z")

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I will not have a word said against Polly Harvey. Its her very normalness that makes me want to… well, you know.

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**Author:** ![Cyndar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cyndar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyndar)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/35 "2000-11-15T13:29:54Z")

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I don’t find Macy Gray (sp?) attractive.

I think Lisa Loeb is very cute.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/36 "2000-11-15T13:30:39Z")

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I almost forgot.

Brittany “Autobiography at 18 years old” Spears.

God, that woman took quite a fall from the ugly tree. Must of hit every branch on the way down. I swear, Her parents must be cousins or something. The only thing that makes her look pretty is the make up artist. I swear, My worst nightmare is waking up next to her with runny mascara and cracked flakey foundation like the lizard woman from V, and her saying, “Opps, get a towel, I did it again”.

Hell, the amount of women I know that are so much prettier than her, and are way more talented than her, that will never get a record contract because they don’t fit into societies image of “Pretty”.

Brittany, eat my choad.

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**Author:** ![BunnyGirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@BunnyGirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyGirl)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/37 "2000-11-15T13:35:09Z")

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Any of the Rolling Stones! Gross! They make me retch!

Anyway, I must agree. Unless a woman is hot, it seems that its hard for her to get a break. People like Tracy Bonham and Lisa Loeb who are incredible songwriters but just “average” on the looks thing have a hard time getting any air play.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/38 "2000-11-15T13:44:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*  
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> Brittany “Autobiography at 18 years old” Spears.
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> God, that woman took quite a fall from the ugly tree. Must of hit every branch on the way down.  
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**Twisty** ’s kidding, right? Man, when she wore the little school uniform in her first video…and her racy performance on the MTV awards…

**She’s a hottie!!!**

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**Author:** ![jesuslynch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jesuslynch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesuslynch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/39 "2000-11-15T15:09:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by spooje \*  
> \*\*…Ann Wilson, who was once the woman of dreams, but now rivals Marlon Brando in size \*\*

I gotta go with spooje here. Tug Boat Annie came to mind as soon as I read the thread title.

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**Author:** ![Inky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7feea3/32.png) [@Inky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inky_1)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2000, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-the-ugly-female-rock-stars/41173/40 "2000-11-15T15:10:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by stofsky \*  
> \*\*Tori Amos gives me the creeping crawlies. \*\*

Thats it punk!! You an me, we gonna’ **RUMBLE!!!**

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