# Where are you on the Kinsey Scale? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 11, 2002, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510 "2002-07-11T22:03:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/81 "2002-07-14T07:43:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homebrew \* > \*\*I have never in my life heard a woman say “I’m a fag trapped in a woman’s body.” \*\* Well, you have now. 😃 Seriously, I often wish I were a man so that I could have male/male sex. It really turns me on; first, because I feel it’s less predictable than straight sex, second, because I have a strong aggressive streak, third, because some men are just downright _beautiful_ rather than handsome. There is one actor who, every time I see his picture, I think, “What an incredibly fuckable mouth. Oh, how I wish I had a cock to slip between those lips!” So where does that put me on the scale? As far as lesbian sex, I’ve done it, it was okay enough that I’d do it again–but would be more likely to do it again in a multiples situation. ---
**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/82 "2002-07-14T07:44:51Z")
P.S.-- **Homebrew** , a transvestite friend of mine once told me that I wasn’t a man trapped in a woman’s body, I was a drag queen trapped in a woman’s body, lol! ---
**Author:** ![VDarlin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e56c9b/32.png) [@VDarlin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VDarlin)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/83 "2002-07-14T07:58:03Z")
I’ve never done anything with a woman, but as far as the attraction is concerned, I guess I’d put myself down as a 1. As for the “Lesbian trapped in a man’s body”, I have, on numerous occasions, to a select few people, namely my boyfriend, said that I am a “gay man trapped in a woman’s body”, and I certainly can’t be the only one whose ever said that(that wasn’t gay, at least…uh…I think??). ~V ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/84 "2002-07-14T08:00:37Z")
Well, this certainly is an eye-opening thread. Surprised it took so long to open it. As has been pointed out, the scale is too narrow to describe the rich variety of human sexuality. I’m reluctant to pick a number. I think that **1** comes closest to fitting the bill, although depending on how you interpret “self-concept,” it could go as high as **3**. All of my 1-1 relationships have been heterosexual. Between the ages of 19 and 24, I was involved in three _menage a trois_, so I guess I’ve shared a fair amount of sack time with guys, when it comes to that. (These were real _menage a trois_: exclusive, durative relationships, and not casual “threesomes.”) Seemed natural enough at the time, although in retrospect I think that it gets complicated enough when people pair off. More to the point, as a teen, more of my friends were gay than not, ostensibly because I hung with the “art” crowd. I had something of a crush on my friend Martin, author of the celebrated Blue Board for the C64. (Good ol’ BBS days.) He was het, as far as I know, although he was quite effeminate. I was equally attracted to his girlfriend, who fit the stereotype of a butch lesbian, crewcut, army-boots, and all. (She was the grandaughter of a famous Canadian anarchist, and had a massive intellect herself.) I distinctly remember feeling terrible shame for being frightened and repelled at the idea of actually having sex with a male, which I suppose has given me a certain amount of empathy for the plight of gay teens trying to fit in with their heterosexual peers. On reflection, it occurs to me that a large part of the aversion may have come from ignorantly equating gay sex with anal sex. (The thought of anal sex with _anyone_, regardless of gender, gives me the willies. More of a prude than I like to think, I guess.) I find androgynous people more attractive, on the whole. People who are either “hyper-male” or “hyper-female” appear somewhat ridiculous and incomplete to me. People often assume I’m gay because I apparently sometimes dress “gay.” (Uh, lavender is a favourite colour, I sometimes do the leather thing, lately I’m partial to all white cottons. For the life of me I’m not sure what the frequency of the light reflecting off of me has to do with my sexuality, but some people superstitiously interpret it that way.) I like a lot of things that people consider “girly.” Big Jane Austen reader, for instance. I _like it_ when women _or_ men show an interest. The best day I had last year, I was having a coffee in Vancouver’s West End, and was chatted up twice in the time it took to finish my bagel- 1F, 1M-- then I walked 4 blocks to my GF’s and had an afternoon of glorious shagging. How validating is _that?_ Feh, I’m babbling. Long story short, I cultivate (and appreciate) androgyny, but haven’t had homosexual sex as of this writing, although I’ve been as close to it as farting is to shitting. But “never say never.” I wouldn’t rule out the possibility that some guy might charm the pants off me the day-after-tomorrow. Where the hell does that fit on the linear scale? ---
**Author:** ![Sue\_Duhnym](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@Sue\_Duhnym](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sue_Duhnym)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/85 "2002-07-14T19:34:58Z")
I could have sworn that **Esprit** did this a couple years ago, but upon searching, it’s just a show of [hands](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=21059&highlight=kinsey+scale) rather than asking to rank yourself. Me, I’m a 2. Though I’d really _like_ to be a 3. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/86 "2002-07-14T20:17:12Z")
Here’s a guy who’s a **6**. I can appreciate the beauty of women but I ask myself, ‘why bother when guys are so much fun?’ Given a choice between Richard Karn and [insert name of beautiful female actress/model], Richard wins hands down every time! ---
**Author:** ![cainxinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7bcc69/32.png) [@cainxinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cainxinth)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/87 "2002-07-14T20:37:08Z")
0.01 – I once thought about it. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/88 "2002-07-15T05:03:04Z")
Nice to know _some_ people on this board have a sense of humor. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/89 "2002-07-15T08:07:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homebrew \* > **I was just curious as to why that particular joke is so popular with straight men. I’ve never heard a woman make the equivalent comment.** Hello, I’ve known or heard of (e.g., Madonna) several women who shared a campy sense of humor, and similar objects of desire, with gay male pals. And yes, they joked that they must be a gay man trapped in a woman’s body. [http://www.bgay.com/ae/art/ae112701.htm](http://www.bgay.com/ae/art/ae112701.htm) [http://www.thestranger.com/1999-05-13/savage.html](http://www.thestranger.com/1999-05-13/savage.html) ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/90 "2002-07-15T08:20:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by QueenAl \* > \*\*Only if homosexuality were heritable. \*\* It is possible for male homosexuality to be genetic, even though the trait would seemingly be quickly bred out of the population. The trait could be carried by the female line, and expressed only by the male offspring. In other words, although a gay man may not pass on the genetic trait to his offspring, his heterosexual sister might pass it to her male offspring. An example of such a genetic trait is hemophilia, which is carried through the female line but expressed by male offspring, even though, prior to the creation of clotting factor, few of those male hemophiliacs reached the age of reproduction. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/91 "2002-07-15T08:26:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by QueenAl \* > \*\*Only if homosexuality were heritable. \*\* It is possible for male homosexuality to be genetic, even though the trait would seemingly be quickly bred out of the population. The trait could be carried by the female line, and expressed only by the male offspring. In other words, although a gay man may not pass on the genetic trait to his offspring, his heterosexual sister might pass it to her male offspring. An example of such a genetic trait is hemophilia, which is carried through the female line but expressed by male offspring, even though, prior to the creation of clotting factor, few of those male hemophiliacs reached the age of reproduction. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/92 "2002-07-15T09:20:15Z")
I think I’m an 0 to .5. I’ve done the obligitory “thinking about it” ('cause you shouldn’t be afraid to _think_ about it, after all!). It didn’t take me too long to realize, “Ewww! No way! Too many breasts!” That’s what it comes down to for me. I couldn’t deal with that other pair of breasts. Complete turn-off. I do admire some women, but it’s more of a “I wish I could look like them” or “I like the way they look” thing than a sexual thing. ---
**Author:** ![Nichol\_storm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Nichol\_storm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nichol_storm)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/93 "2002-12-30T01:53:18Z")
99.9999% of my fantasies involve men, but I did have this really hot lesbian dream this one time, and I can appreciate women in an aesthetic sense. But the only way I’d do a threesome is with two guys, and I’d really like my own stap-on. So where do I fall? I’m guessing 1, but I’m not sure. Maybe a 1-to-the-2nd-power? .:Nichol:. ---
**Author:** ![KellyM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/57b2e6/32.png) [@KellyM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyM)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/94 "2002-12-30T02:00:33Z")
Eeek! Zombie thread! ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510/95 "2002-12-30T02:00:35Z")
Hey! Don’t revive this thread! I’m in the middle of a study! Give your answers in my thread! [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=153120](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=153120) How the heck am I ever gonna get that NIH grant at this rate?? 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-are-you-on-the-kinsey-scale/118510.md?page=4)