# where Black Lives Matter now? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 30, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511 "2016-08-30T21:52:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/41 "2016-08-31T17:35:10Z")
Wait, shouldn’t it be [these guys](http://wpmedia.montrealgazette.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-rally.jpeg?quality=55&strip=all&w=625&h=469&crop=1) who ought to be out protesting right now? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/42 "2016-08-31T19:02:59Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > My friend Bob died of an aneurysm and Susan Komen was nowhere to be found! To be fair, she’s been dead for 36 years. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/43 "2016-08-31T19:15:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > To be fair, she’s been dead for 36 years. Oh sure, find excuses for her. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/44 "2016-08-31T19:42:30Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Tacky, Dude. Super original, though. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/45 "2016-09-01T01:05:50Z")
Racist troll fail. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/46 "2016-09-01T02:10:00Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Racist troll fail. Say what? ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/47 "2016-09-01T02:23:00Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Say what? The OP. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/48 "2016-09-01T02:23:01Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Say what? The OP was an attempt by a racist to troll with his whole “where is black lives matter?” He’s a racist, who was trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/49 "2016-09-01T02:37:59Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > To be fair, she’s been dead for 36 years. Using the OP’s logic, this doesn’t let her off the hook. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/50 "2016-09-01T10:08:25Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Using the OP’s logic, this doesn’t let her off the hook. Yes, which was why it was mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/51 "2016-09-01T12:56:51Z")
> [@YogSothoth](#): > > This probably has to be explained to you slowly so you’d understand: > > There. is. not. a. widespread. epidemic. of. police. unjustly. killing. deaf. people. therefore. BLM. has. no. reason. to. protest. this. > > Same reason why they don’t protest black on black violence (everyone already agrees its wrong). > > Same reason why they don’t protest police on white violence (doesn’t happen often in comparison). > > If that is too fast for you, I’ll type slower next time Actually, as Rivkah points out, there is. Proportionally, deaf interactions with police don’t go well. There just aren’t a lot of them because there aren’t a lot of deaf people. But it is a known issue in the deaf community. I’m not saying they are targeted - part of the issue BLM addresses is that black people are unfairly targeted for policing - their communities are targeted for “broken window” policing, in a white neighborhood they are pulled over for being black - but there is a bigger issue at play - that police officers often overreact - or react for what they expect - which is a deaf person to be a hearing person and comply or a black person to be violent and not comply - and that officers often respond with their prejudices intact - white boys making trouble are boys being boys, black boys making trouble are on the road to prison. While the impact on deaf people (or the mentally ill or intellectually incompetent, or the homeless - all who face disproportionate amounts of police violence) isn’t the focus of BLM, BLM could score PR points by releasing statements that talk about how lack of training, heightened stress, prejudicial attitudes, and the occasional corrupt cop affects society as a whole - and that - while their movement is focused on the disproportional impact this has on the black community, the black community is not the only community that would benefit from the proposals they are making for improvements in policing. They’d pull some of the teeth from people who are saying “all lives matter” and gain allies in other communities. They’d make a few people recognize that the issue is bigger. I’m not saying they have to. But if I were running their PR, I’d be all over pointing to incidents like this to say “We need change - and not just for us. We know this sort of tragedy, but it isn’t ours alone and we share the pain and offer our sincere condolences to Daniel Harris’ friends and family.” ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/52 "2016-09-01T16:48:31Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > PING:Drunky Smurf I do have a life to live you know. Besides I was busy being passed out. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/53 "2016-09-01T18:03:29Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > No, I am asking why BLM hasnt staged a protest, why there is no outrage. A unarmed man was shot & killed, at first glace without justification, by a cop. One man is black the other white. > > Why no outrage? I would imagine many people who protest at BLM events are outraged by this. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/54 "2016-09-01T18:40:12Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Actually, as Rivkah points out, there is. Proportionally, deaf interactions with police don’t go well. There just aren’t a lot of them because there aren’t a lot of deaf people. But it is a known issue in the deaf community. I would be shocked if it was anywhere close to the number of black people killed by police. maybe you have a point if its proportional, but the numbers might be too small for a good sample. Do you have a statistic? Plus, the comparisons end there. For the same reason that there’s less BLM talk about black on black violence, these accidental shootings of deaf people by police are already seen as problems to be fixed. Nobody agrees the deaf deserves it. But when we’re talking about the type of protests BLM engages in, its specifically for the unlawful justification that police use to say killing these black people is ok. After almost every shooting, the police say it was standard procedure, the officer was not in the wrong, and we should all move along. They see black people as threats because of their skin color and treat them as such, instead of as neutral as typical white people who don’t get shot and arrested at the same rate. We know that black males are more likely to be arrested, more likely to be killed, and more likely to get harsher sentences than comparable white criminals. This systemic and institutional racism is what BLM is fighting against, and that’s why the OP is stupidly, idiotically, knuckle-draggingly wrong about BLM’s priorities. > [@Dangerosa](#): > > While the impact on deaf people (or the mentally ill or intellectually incompetent, or the homeless - all who face disproportionate amounts of police violence) isn’t the focus of BLM, BLM could score PR points by releasing statements that talk about how lack of training, heightened stress, prejudicial attitudes, and the occasional corrupt cop affects society as a whole - and that - while their movement is focused on the disproportional impact this has on the black community, the black community is not the only community that would benefit from the proposals they are making for improvements in policing. They’d pull some of the teeth from people who are saying “all lives matter” and gain allies in other communities. They’d make a few people recognize that the issue is bigger. > > I’m not saying they have to. But if I were running their PR, I’d be all over pointing to incidents like this to say “We need change - and not just for us. We know this sort of tragedy, but it isn’t ours alone and we share the pain and offer our sincere condolences to Daniel Harris’ friends and family.” While I’d be totally for this, I’m not going to be upset if they don’t do it. Many of those who believe the “All Live Matter” crap are racists anyway and wouldn’t be placated by any sort of moderation on the part of BLM. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/55 "2016-09-01T18:45:59Z")
I’ve never known a black, deaf adult. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/56 "2016-09-01T18:55:16Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I’ve never known a black, deaf adult. They have all been shot by the police as teen-agers. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-black-lives-matter-now/764511/57 "2018-05-18T20:22:52Z")
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