# Where can I find the TOS?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935>\
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**Created:** [October 26, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935 "2020-10-26T13:48:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/1 "2020-10-26T13:48:16Z")

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Thanks!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/2 "2020-10-26T13:49:14Z")

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What do you mean by TOS? Terms of service?

Must be, so here:  
[https://boards.straightdope.com/tos](https://boards.straightdope.com/tos)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/3 "2020-10-26T13:51:58Z")

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Terms of Service.

Getting some advice (here and elsewhere) that my phone book thread may be a story of value. Would like to read the TOS… or ‘end user agreement’ or whatever… before continuing. Thanks!

> [@The family business: Market Distribution Specialists, Inc (1984-2012)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-family-business-market-distribution-specialists-inc-1984-2012/923289):
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> It wasn’t until the plane hit cruising altitude that Teri realized she was having problems. Earlier in the morning, everything was fine, delightful even. She and her husband, John, had been preparing for their vacation… the first in 2+ years after arriving in Knoxville… to Hawai’i. She wasn’t looking forward to the three-hour layover @ LAX, but that was air travel and things seemed back to a new normal a few years after 9/11. She was in a good mood… unusually so, her husband remarked in his cus…

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/4 "2020-10-26T13:53:01Z")

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It looks like a Boiler Plate Terms of Service that hasn’t been updated yet.  
I can’t find our old one that we signed up under.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/5 "2020-10-26T13:53:04Z")

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Ahhhh, thanks! I see the edit now. Appreciate it!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/6 "2020-10-26T14:39:39Z")

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Come to think about it, is there a Discourse TOS to which we agreed as well?

Is this a question for… @discobot?

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**Author:** ![discobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/discobot/32/570_2.png) [@discobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/discobot)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/7 "2020-10-26T14:39:41Z")

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Hi! To find out what I can do, say `@discobot display help`.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/8 "2020-10-26T16:03:53Z")

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@discobot which was better, TOS or TNG?

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/9 "2020-10-26T18:58:00Z")

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The old registration agreement can still be found in **Bone** ’s rules thread:

> [@Terms of Service and FAQ](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/registration-agreement-rules-and-faq/823562):
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> Terms of Service The current Terms of Service may be viewed [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/tos).

ETA:

> “All postings and other material on the SDMB are copyrighted by STM. Republication of material appearing on the SDMB without express written permission of STM is prohibited, except that users retain the right to republish their own work. By posting on this board you grant STM and its successors and assigns a nonexclusive irrevocable right to reuse your posting in any manner it or they see fit without notice or compensation to you.”

~Max

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/10 "2020-10-26T19:04:05Z")

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Thank you **Max\_S** , very helpful.

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/11 "2020-10-26T19:11:17Z")

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If I’m reading that right, I can use my own posts and republish them whenever, wherever, and however I want, including for profit and without credit or citation, without consulting or notifying “STM”, and if I do so, I don’t owe “STM” anything. (Side question - what is “STM” - Sun Times Media, the old owner of the 'Dope?)

On the flip side, “STM” can also use my posts and republish them whenever, wherever, and however they want, without consulting or notifying me, and if they do, they won’t owe me anything.

However, I cannot use anything anyone _else_ posts, without the express written permission of “STM”.

Is that right?

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/12 "2020-10-26T19:21:11Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> (Side question - what is “STM” - Sun Times Media, the old owner of the 'Dope?)

I am not a lawyer.

STM is defined earlier in the contract as “Sun-Times Media, LLC”.

Regarding the rest, even with the disclaimer, I am not confident enough in my response to answer your question.

~Max

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/13 "2020-10-26T19:35:44Z")

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Sorry! I was trying to reference your post to ask an open question to the thread, not specifically to you, and bungled the “Reply” function.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/14 "2020-10-26T19:59:11Z")

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No need to apologize! However, I want to point out that STM still owns the 'Dope. You can find the email for a certain **rmcdonald** at the bottom of every webpage (“Contact Us”), maybe he can answer any questions you have about copyright access.

~Max

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/15 "2020-10-27T11:55:02Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> You can find the email for a certain **rmcdonald** at the bottom of every webpage (“Contact Us”)

That clown!?

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-the-tos/923935/16 "2020-10-27T18:43:30Z")

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Probably not _Ronald_ McDonald. 😉

~Max
