# Where can I find this picture or something similar?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 10, 2006, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-this-picture-or-something-similar/383537 "2006-12-10T04:47:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Buckler\_of\_Swashing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Buckler\_of\_Swashing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buckler_of_Swashing)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-this-picture-or-something-similar/383537/1 "2006-12-10T04:47:16Z")

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Ok, I’m 95% sure I’ve seen this image before, but don’t know if it has a name or how to find it. The other 5% of me leans towards the possibility that my mind has created the picture by cannibalising little pieces of other real pictures and concepts.

It’s a stark black and white image, not a photograph, of a woman’s head and neck, possibly shoulders. Her face is very undetailed. It’s done in kind of a stylised, sleek way of drawing, I thought maybe art deco style, but I’m not sure. Definitely conjures up an 1920s-30s feel.

Anyway, she has a large black hat on at an angle which also partially covers her face. You can see either one or both of her hands lifted up near her face. In one hand she has either a cigarette or a cigaratte in a lengthy cigarette-holder. I see the hat and the cigaratte as being on her right hand side.

As I said, I’m not sure where I’ve seen it, but I get the feeling it’s a common stock image. I’ve Google-Imaged about all of the word combinations for this that I can think of.

Does it ring any bells with any dopers? I may be remembering half of a full-body picture, or not remembering accurately. I’m after this image or something close.

Don’t know if this is better off in GQ, but it was art so I put it here. Move at will.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-this-picture-or-something-similar/383537/2 "2006-12-10T05:25:04Z")

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Total shot in the dark here, but are you thinking of a [Nagel](http://www.allposters.com/-st/Patrick-Nagel-Posters_c7205_s26934_.htm)?

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**Author:** ![Buckler\_of\_Swashing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Buckler\_of\_Swashing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buckler_of_Swashing)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-this-picture-or-something-similar/383537/3 "2006-12-10T05:41:07Z")

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Thanks, that’s a similar style, but not quite. Though the site’s ‘smoking advertisments’ section led me to [this](http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Modiano-Posters_i843943_.htm) which is very close. The style isn’t quite right but the woman is basically correct, the hat is as I recall. Except I’m looking for a pure black & white illustration, as though it was done with black ink on white paper.

Thanks for your help, I’m now sure this exists…

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**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-this-picture-or-something-similar/383537/4 "2006-12-10T20:56:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Buckler of Swashing]  
Though the site’s ‘smoking advertisments’ section led me to [this](http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Modiano-Posters_i843943_.htm) which is very close.  
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I know it’s not what you’re looking for, but I just have to say how the image you have here was later used as inspiration for the advertising and playbill of [Wicked](http://www.playbill.com/images/photos/WickedPlaybillCover.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-this-picture-or-something-similar/383537/5 "2006-12-10T21:19:41Z")

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Shot in the dark, close to what you describe, but no cigarette, could it be this picture:

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-this-picture-or-something-similar/383537/6 "2006-12-13T04:35:16Z")

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If it’s anything close to these pics: [http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/541/1ze3.png](http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/541/1ze3.png)  
You might want to look around for “Nick Georgiou”.

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-this-picture-or-something-similar/383537/7 "2006-12-13T15:36:31Z")

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I know this is not the one you’re looking for  
[red hat](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.superiorlabels.com/images/ColorClipart/Cigarette/1953402.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.superiorlabels.com/LK_Cigarette_1169_CC.htm&h=72&w=72&sz=6&hl=en&start=18&tbnid=RnJyctn2TX-jiM:&tbnh=69&tbnw=69&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwoman%2Bhat%2Bcigarette%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dopera%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DG)

but I can clearly see the image your looking for in my head. If I find it I’ll repost.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-this-picture-or-something-similar/383537/8 "2006-12-13T18:41:32Z")

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To me, it sounds like the graphic used in the opening sequence of the BBC adaptation of the Lord Peter Wimsey books _Have His Carcass, Strong Poison, and Gaudy Night_ (the ones with Petherbridge, not the ones with Carmichael); it shows a 1930’s long sleek automobile pulling up, Lord Peter and Harriet Vane emerging, and she’s as you described, with cigarette in a long cigarette holder. I think he lights her cig and she turns towards the “camera” just as the intro screen titles roll.

Can’t find a good example on Google images.

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-i-find-this-picture-or-something-similar/383537/9 "2006-12-13T18:52:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Buckler of Swashing]  
It’s a stark black and white image, not a photograph, of a woman’s head and neck, possibly shoulders. Her face is very undetailed. It’s done in kind of a stylised, sleek way of drawing, I thought maybe art deco style, but I’m not sure. Definitely conjures up an 1920s-30s feel.

Anyway, she has a large black hat on at an angle which also partially covers her face. You can see either one or both of her hands lifted up near her face. In one hand she has either a cigarette or a cigaratte in a lengthy cigarette-holder. I see the hat and the cigaratte as being on her right hand side.  
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I’ve seen that image as well, so I know you’re not imagining it.

I’m almost certain it is from [one of these books by Dover.](http://store.doverpublications.com/0486254909.html) Stop down at Barnes & Noble and thumb through a couple of them and I bet you find it.
