# Where can you get antique pipes?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 23, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711 "2008-01-23T20:33:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/1 "2008-01-23T20:33:06Z")

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It seems like my posts here are always either “help me with my new hobby!” or “help me buy my boyfriend a manly present!” But there you go. I got him an awesome, beautiful humidor for Christmas, but damn if it isn’t almost his birthday. Not just his birthday, but his _real_ birthday - he’s a Leap Day baby and he’ll be, what, six this year? So I want to get him a cooler present than normal. I’ll probably get him a couple things.

I was wondering if an antique pipe would be a cool present. (He absolutely loves the clay pipe bowl from “random shipwreck” I got him on vacation last year, and you can’t even smoke it!) He likes all kinds of pipes, both to enjoy as art and objects and to smoke. I brought him a beautiful meerschaum from Turkey that he adores and says smokes wonderfully, so I have successfully bought him nice pipes before - I just want to up the ante, so to speak.

In other words, is there a trade in antique pipes for smoking, not just collecting? If so, who are some good online dealers? What should I look for? Is there a time before which they get prohibitively expensive? (Could I buy pretty easily, say, a pipe from the first half of the 20th century that he could enjoy smoking?) Are there pipes in styles no longer made now, or using materials no longer available, that he would like? (No tiger-testicle-trimmed-with-ivory sort of thing, of course.) I don’t know much at all about pipes, but I was idly thinking about the Sherlock Holmes style calabash sort of thing (he also adores Sherlock Holmes, FYI.) Any thoughts? Suggestions? I have a little more than a month to consider the perfect gift/gifts.

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/2 "2008-01-23T21:21:45Z")

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Very good idea **Zsofia** - My wife knows I like a good pipe and I’ve got some real nice ones I’ve collected over the years. Go to [this](http://www.lilliputmotorcompany.com/) website, and on the left hand side you’ll see\*\* “Smoking Pipes”\*\*.

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> Fabulous meerschaum carved pipe from Turkey. Beautiful pipes, you must agree! Why Turkey, you may ask… Well, it’s because the province of EskiSehir, in the central Anatolian basin, has the world’s greatest meerschaum deposit, formed during the Oligo Miocene period, and therefore the world’s foremost carvers thereof. Meerschaum is a clay mineral, which belongs to the Sepiolite group. A highly desirable material for smoking pipes, because of its unique properties such as absorption, chemical composition, white color, porosity, low specific gravity, catalytic and thixotropic properties. Whew.., after all that, we just love these beautiful works of art, for their own sake. Smoking is optional. And don’t forget, the meerschaum turns golden-brown after years of puffing.

I’ve got the Bacchus Bent and the Bavarian. All gifts from my wife.

Also, I don’t know where you are from but around here in CT, we’ve got a couple very fine pipe shops. Not the bubbling variety either - but the gentlemans pipes.\*

- Not that gentleman don’t smoke the bubbling variety but hey…it’s different.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/3 "2008-01-23T21:30:52Z")

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I kind of feel we’ve got the meerschaum area covered, unless I find anything particularly special.

We do have several tobacco shops here, but their pipe selection is a little, eh. Lots of pipe tobacco, lots of cigars (tons of cigars) but not so much on the lotsapipes.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/4 "2008-01-23T22:46:25Z")

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You should hire someone to carve a new meerschaum pipe just for your hubby. Perhaps from nude photos of yourself.

I have a camera.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/5 "2008-01-24T00:19:53Z")

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Just want to put in a word for new pipes–there are many kinds available, in all kinds of prices, and I (a pipe smoker) am one of those types who would prefer to break in a pipe my way, not the way a pipe’s previous owner has done it.

I’ve seen antique pipes for sale in various places (all the way from fancy antique stores to garage sales), and I’ve never been very impressed. In many cases, they haven’t been well-cared for–they need a good cleaning, or in some cases, an overhaul/restoration by an expert. True, they’re usually not terribly expensive, which can be a point in their favour, but smoking them would seem to me to be an unsatisfying experience.

In addition, I don’t think the average pipe’s value is determined by its age. Perhaps to its owner, yes; but to anybody else, it’s just a used pipe. Unless it is unique somehow (“the only tiger-shaped pipe that the master pipemaker Brandt carved”), or is affiliated in some way with a famous person or event (“Raymond Chandler smoked this pipe”), it’s just a used pipe.

Still, to each their own, and if your boyfriend would like an antique pipe as an _objet d’art_, well, get him an antique. But if he’s likely to smoke it, I’d suggest a new one.

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**Author:** ![Carson\_O\_Genic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Carson\_O\_Genic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carson_O_Genic)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/6 "2008-01-24T00:46:53Z")

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Maybe you should carve a meerschaum for him…I know you’re into handwork,and it carves easier than wood.Kits used to be available (been a long time) that had a block of sea foam with hole bored and bit fitted.When done it’s cured in the oven and brushed with beeswax whilst warm.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/7 "2008-01-24T01:19:27Z")

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That’s a really awesome idea, but I’m not good at that kind of handiwork. Textile arts? Awesome. Cooking and canning? I knock that shit up. Carving stuff? Hey look, a monster! \<switches carved block with something some expert Turk did\>

Is there a reliable Pipe Superstore website? I see there’s a _ton_ of carved meerschaum websites, but what about a wider variety of types?

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/8 "2008-01-24T01:27:17Z")

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PS - geez, can it be any more of a pain in the ass to find TOBACCO pipes online?

However, did you know they make a bong in the shape of a V8? Honors America’s love affair with the road, man.

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**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/9 "2008-01-24T01:34:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Zsofia]  
PS - geez, can it be any more of a pain in the ass to find TOBACCO pipes online?

However, did you know they make a bong in the shape of a V8? Honors America’s love affair with the road, man.  
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You might search for Briar pipes. Not as good to smoke (according to my husband), and they don’t last as long as Meerschaum, but might be a bit of a change.

Ebay has a WIDE variety of neat pipes. I just went and clicked on pipes and saw some really cool stuff on the first page.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/10 "2008-01-24T02:05:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Zsofia]  
PS - geez, can it be any more of a pain in the ass to find TOBACCO pipes online?  
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Try a search on “estate pipes” and see what you get. I was able to find a number of sites offering “estate pipes” (aka “used” and sometimes “antique,” but most often “estate”).

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/11 "2008-01-24T02:07:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Zsofia]  
PS - geez, can it be any more of a pain in the ass to find TOBACCO pipes online?

However, did you know they make a bong in the shape of a V8? Honors America’s love affair with the road, man.  
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Rather than looking for “antique pipes” you should try searching on “estate pipes”. That may help your search efforts a bit. I would look for a briar, and do a little searching to find what the better brands are. Dunhill is considered the Cadillac.

That being said, I’d go for a new pipe. He’ll have fun breaking it in, and the majority of pipe smokers who buy estate pipes do so because they like to collect them. Aesthetically, new pipes are just as nice, and some of the newer designs are almost stunning.

[Here](http://www.uptowns.com/manuf_page.php) is one place to start, as well as [here](http://www.pipes.org/links/).

You also may want to narrow it down to a specific price range, as they can get expensive.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/12 "2008-01-24T02:20:26Z")

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[QUOTE=FilmGeek]  
You might search for Briar pipes. Not as good to smoke (according to my husband), and they don’t last as long as Meerschaum, but might be a bit of a change.

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I would disagree with both statements. Which one smokes better is a matter of opinion, and depends on each individual pipe. How long a pipe will last is almost never of concern to a pipe smoker, as a properly maintained pipe will last longer than the person smoking it. If anything, a meer won’t last as long due to its fragile nature. Plus, it really isn’t good to smoke a meer outdoors.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/13 "2008-01-24T03:43:24Z")

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Well, I found something I know he’s going to _love_. I did want to go the antique route because he, like me, just loves touching old stuff, you know? So I found some unsmoked lovely pipes from the 30’s, and he’s going to love this part, they’re unsmoked, at least according to the seller, _because they hid them under the factory floor when the Nazis came_. Paid way too much for it, but I know he’s going to love the story, true or not. Also, I think it’s pretty. And I can send it back no questions asked within three days if I hate it.

Still have to find something else to get him, though. This is a really special birthday. (Not to mention, damned Valentine’s Day.)

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/14 "2008-01-24T13:45:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Zsofia]  
Well, I found something I know he’s going to _love_. I did want to go the antique route because he, like me, just loves touching old stuff, you know? So I found some unsmoked lovely pipes from the 30’s, and he’s going to love this part, they’re unsmoked, at least according to the seller, _because they hid them under the factory floor when the Nazis came_. Paid way too much for it, but I know he’s going to love the story, true or not. Also, I think it’s pretty. And I can send it back no questions asked within three days if I hate it.

Still have to find something else to get him, though. This is a really special birthday. (Not to mention, damned Valentine’s Day.)  
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Sounds like you made a nice find? Do you know who the maker of the pipe was?

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/15 "2008-01-24T13:58:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Zsofia]  
Well, I found something I know he’s going to _love_. I did want to go the antique route because he, like me, just loves touching old stuff, you know? So I found some unsmoked lovely pipes from the 30’s, and he’s going to love this part, they’re unsmoked, at least according to the seller, _because they hid them under the factory floor when the Nazis came_. Paid way too much for it, but I know he’s going to love the story, true or not. Also, I think it’s pretty. And I can send it back no questions asked within three days if I hate it.

Still have to find something else to get him, though. This is a really special birthday. (Not to mention, damned Valentine’s Day.)  
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Do you have a pic?

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/16 "2008-01-24T18:11:20Z")

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It’s on page 2, the “Genod c. 1930 True Magnum Bent Billiard 2”. Total impulse purchase and now I’m worried I spent too much - but I think he’ll like it.

[http://finepipes.com/sale.php](http://finepipes.com/sale.php)

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/17 "2008-01-24T18:39:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Zsofia]  
It’s on page 2, the “Genod c. 1930 True Magnum Bent Billiard 2”. Total impulse purchase and now I’m worried I spent too much - but I think he’ll like it.

> **[Estate pipes, antique pipes, Dunhill, Danish pipes, Japanese pipes, Halcyon...](https://finepipes.com/)**
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> Fine Pipes has been buying and selling high quality pipes since 1997. We have tried to go the extra mile, in understanding what makes a great pipe, and have spent many hours in the studios of some of the worlds best pipe makers in Denmark and Italy....

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He’ll like it.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/18 "2008-01-24T18:47:20Z")

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I’m getting a hat that’s green astroturf and has a golf ball, tee, and flag stuck to it. (He caught me looking at hat websites earlier.) I may let him think that’s his present _all day_.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-can-you-get-antique-pipes/434711/19 "2008-01-24T20:28:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Zsofia]  
Well, I found something I know he’s going to _love_. I did want to go the antique route because he, like me, just loves touching old stuff, you know? So I found some unsmoked lovely pipes from the 30’s, and he’s going to love this part, they’re unsmoked, at least according to the seller, _because they hid them under the factory floor when the Nazis came_. Paid way too much for it, but I know he’s going to love the story, true or not. Also, I think it’s pretty. And I can send it back no questions asked within three days if I hate it.

Still have to find something else to get him, though. This is a really special birthday. (Not to mention, damned Valentine’s Day.)  
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Honestly, it sounds like a story made up to justify an outrageous price for a brand-new, Chinese-made product.
