# Where did G. I. Joe come from?

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**Created:** [March 13, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-g-i-joe-come-from/441302 "2008-03-13T23:36:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Doug\_Bowe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@Doug\_Bowe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_Bowe)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-g-i-joe-come-from/441302/1 "2008-03-13T23:36:03Z")

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I did a search of the archives and snopes and came up empty. Does anyone here know where the term “G. I. Joe” came from? I’m asking about the reference to the common soldier, not the toy.

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**Author:** ![yabob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yabob/32/2821_2.png) [@yabob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yabob)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-g-i-joe-come-from/441302/2 "2008-03-13T23:54:18Z")

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WWII cartoonist Bill Mauldin’s “Willie and Joe” cartoons. If he didn’t actually invent it, he certainly popularized it.

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-g-i-joe-come-from/441302/3 "2008-03-14T00:06:09Z")

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G.I. stands for Government Issue. Everything a soldier received was G.I.  
Joe was a generic term for a dude (Hey Joe whatja know?). Therefore G.I. Joe was a generic term for a dogface soldier.

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[QUOTE=yabob]  
WWII cartoonist Bill Mauldin’s “Willie and Joe” cartoons. If he didn’t actually invent it, he certainly popularized it.  
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I’m a little reluctant to give him 100% credit, too, but [this site](http://www.answers.com/topic/bill-mauldin?cat=entertainment) isn’t so hesitant:

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> …actor/writer Bill Mauldin’s creation of G.I. Willie and G.I. Joe served to inspire battered soldiers in the dark days of WWII,…

And, of course, **Loach** is right about the “G.I.” part.

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-g-i-joe-come-from/441302/5 "2008-03-14T00:41:31Z")

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“G.I.” goes back to at least 1918.

The term “G.I. Joe” to mean the averge soldier is first cited in an Army book in 1936, but it was certainly popularized in 1942 by [David Breger](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Breger). Bill Mauldin’s cartoons came second, I believe, but certainly Mauldin is the one we remember today. But Breger’s stuff was produced in June of 1942.

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-g-i-joe-come-from/441302/6 "2008-03-14T03:06:15Z")

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[QUOTE=samclem]  
“G.I.” goes back to at least 1918.  
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[Word Origins](http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php/more/310/) attributes it not to “government issue” nor “general infantry”, but to “galvanized iron” which acronym appeared in military supply documents as early as 1907:

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> Most people nowadays know that a G.I. is an American soldier and that the term is popularly associated with the Second World War, but few know what the abbreviation G.I. originally stood for or that the term predates WWII by some decades.
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> G.I. was originally a semi-official U.S. Army abbreviation for galvanized iron, used in inventories and supply records. It dates to at least 1907 and is commonly found in records from the First World War.
