# Where did the 16 million Democratic votes go? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 6, 2024, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786 "2024-11-06T14:01:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/81 "2024-11-07T22:50:58Z")
That doesn’t answer the question. How does any of that dissuade millions of democrats from voting? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/82 "2024-11-07T22:53:27Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > How does any of that dissuade millions of democrats from voting? Inflation- the working class was hit hard by it. Now, most of them werent going to vote for trump, but be energized to vote for he current administration, who they wrongly blame for inflation? Nope. And there are still millions and millions of uncounted votes. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/83 "2024-11-07T23:20:45Z")
Well, one thing I got right about this whole debacle was that the results would depend a lot on turnout. The Democrats failed to turn out their votes, and that was that. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/84 "2024-11-07T23:29:42Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > How, exactly, did this keep 16 million people from voting? Nothing _kept_ them from voting. They didn’t feel motivated to vote. They weren’t fired up enough. Trump’s base are fired up with anger all the time, it never lets up, but when times are less volatile, the Dems see less of a need to have a say. I guess they figure it’s in hand. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/85 "2024-11-07T23:33:10Z")
I may have to eat my words, but I honestly don’t see Harris supporters storming the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2025 (or whatever day they’re doing this). ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/87 "2024-11-08T03:53:56Z")
> [@Earl\_McCabe](#): > > The dems rigged the last election. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/89 "2024-11-08T04:12:47Z")
…and that proves… what? We know the numbers are the numbers. _Proves **nothing** _ about “rigging” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/90 "2024-11-08T04:13:17Z")
Thanks! Clearly that chart proves that the Republicans engaged in voter fraud in 2020 if big changes in turnout are all the evidence required to ‘’‘’‘prove’‘’‘’ voter fraud! ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/91 "2024-11-08T04:17:46Z")
And the very difference he points out is being very heavily analyzed and discussed as a sign of racism and/or sexism. It’s ridiculous to make a big deal of it when… Ooooh, right, he probably doesn’t believe racism or sexism exists anymore. Makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/93 "2024-11-08T04:19:50Z")
For the clear Republican voter fraud your chart ‘’‘’‘proves’‘’‘’? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/96 "2024-11-08T04:23:06Z")
Yes. It is something widely acknowledged in liberal circles and that many are trying to address. Just because someone votes Democratic doesn’t make them per se immune to being human. I’m glad you acknowledge the pervasiveness of racism and sexism in society at large; some people don’t. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/97 "2024-11-08T04:23:28Z")
> [@Earl\_McCabe](#): > > Just dems when they blew Covid up to be some big thing Well, there’s a bullshit hijack that we won’t be allowed to refute. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/99 "2024-11-08T04:30:22Z")
Who is “they”? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/101 "2024-11-08T04:31:53Z")
The “Dem party” doesn’t decide who the nominee is. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/103 "2024-11-08T04:33:12Z")
Tell me you don’t know what a primary is without telling me you don’t know what a primary is. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/105 "2024-11-08T04:36:01Z")
You know ANYONE can vote in a primary, right? You don’t have to swear a loyalty oath or pass a test or anything. That’s how a professional con man who claimed for decades to be a Democrat and had never held any kind of elected office wound up the Republican presidential candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/107 "2024-11-08T04:39:01Z")
Parties don’t pick nominees. Period. Voters do. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/108 "2024-11-08T13:42:52Z")
Split this topic on November 8, 2024, 1:42pm UTC A post was split to a new topic: [Earl\_McCabe who was WillFarnaby post election troll posts](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/earl-mccabe-who-was-willfarnaby-post-election-troll-posts/1009930) ---
**Author:** ![StringsandHammers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stringsandhammers/32/17933_2.png) [@StringsandHammers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StringsandHammers)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/109 "2024-11-08T12:24:06Z")
There were less votes because people forgot how bad things got in 2020. People forgot about the riots and the out of control pandemic. They forgot about thr empty grocery store shelves and all the businesses that closed their doors. People got really comfortable these past 4 years but they’re about to be reminded will quick how bad things can get. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786/110 "2024-11-08T16:33:30Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > That doesn’t answer the question. How does any of that dissuade millions of democrats from voting? It doesn’t dissuade them from voting. The number who voted was consistent with normal statistics. They just weren’t as hyper-motivated to vote as they had been in one unique election in 2020. Trumpists, on the other hand, are demonstrably very reliable turnouts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-the-16-million-democratic-votes-go/1009786.md?page=6)