# Where Did You Get That Hat?: Alarming SF/Fantasy Headgear **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 3, 2005, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230 "2005-11-03T03:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/1 "2005-11-03T03:00:56Z")
Inspired by {OK, blatantly plagiarised from} **Podkayne** ’s IMHO thread on[Military Millinery](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=342555), allow me to present the Science Fiction and Fantasy Headgear Thread. Given the preponderance of startling headgear in the genre {a natty tile is the _sine qua non_ of any aspiring tyrant}, be it helmets, masks, cowls, hoods or just plain pointy hats, who has the coolest? The toughest? The spikiest? The most impractical? The silliest? As a leading contender in the Stupidest Chapeau stakes, feast your eyes upon [The Black Guardian](http://www.shillpages.com/dw/mo_bg01.jpg) from _Doctor Who_, played {with a straight face} by Valentine Dyall. While this creation does allow unrestricted peripheral vision, all aspiring galactic ubervillains should note that “You Cannot Be A Despot With A Chicken On Your Head” can be sung merrily by your foes to the tune of _John Brown’s Body_. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/2 "2005-11-03T03:15:41Z")
I make hats. Most of them are one of a kind; some can be called _avant garde_. I have two different sayings that I made up myself: \* If you can put it on your head, it’s a hat._and_Just because you can put it on your head don’t make it a hat.\* _ **Both of these statements are true.** _ I have a friend with HUGE book about the history of fashion. HUGE: four milk crates and you got a coffee table. Leafing through it, you discover that over the history of mankind, there is not a single thing under the sun that somebody, somewhere, hasn’t put on his or her head and called it a hat. It’s what distinguishes us from the animals. Well, except for like chimps, and some chihuahuas. ---
**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/3 "2005-11-03T03:16:06Z")
I can find it on line but I will keep looking. I was home today (torn up ankle) and the SF channel had a Buck Rogers marathon and in one episode all of the planet officials on this one planet had these orange hats that began like a legionaire’s hat and continued about a foot and a half more. All of the officials were Afro-American and I thought for the hat alone the black population of any number of countries should have brought a class action lawsuit for defamation of character. ---
**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/4 "2005-11-03T03:17:30Z")
It should have read, “I can’t find it on line…” ---
**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/5 "2005-11-03T03:33:08Z")
Some sort of group-acheivement award needs to be crated for Frank Herbert’s Dune miniseries on the Sci Fi Channel. Aside from the Sardaukar Überberet mentioned in the military hats thread, we also have some awesome Bene Gesserit hats (cowboy hat meets flying nun). Put together a four of guild agents and four mentats and you have a good start on one of them life-size chess sets. Best hat of all time, though, was the [Wiseman](http://www.movieforum.com/movies/titles/labyrinth/wiseman.shtml) in Labyrinth. “It is _so_ stimulating being your hat.” ---
**Author:** ![lonesome\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@lonesome\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lonesome_loser)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/6 "2005-11-03T03:41:13Z")
Reynolds. Why do you ask? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/7 "2005-11-03T03:54:41Z")
From comic books, the absolute worst has to be Mento, of the Doom Patrol. Mordru’s classic look gets an honourable mention. (It has wings…and an eye…and it’s purple.) Of course, that’s nothing compared to the charley brown shirt he wore for a time, but we’re just talking about hats here for the moment… ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/8 "2005-11-03T04:19:12Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > …but we’re just talking about hats here for the moment… Oh, hats, helmets, skullcaps, cowls, hoods - they’re all good. Pictures would be a bonus, of course. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/9 "2005-11-03T05:01:27Z")
World of Warcraft is good for this kind of thing. They recently revealed some of the models for high-level armor sets at their big convention last weekend. Here’s what’s known as the [Wrath](http://www3.telus.net/public/mehwulfe/kyan/WoW/blizzcon/Plate.jpg) set. Several people have already asked if they’re supposed to wear it or wield it… ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/10 "2005-11-03T08:26:26Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Several people have already asked if they’re supposed to wear it or wield it… It slices! It dices! But wait - there’s more! And now, because nothing says “I’m A Mean Motorscooter From Outer Space” like a gorilla wearing a fishbowl diving helmet with a TV antenna stuck on top, the one and only [_Robot Monster_](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046248/) . ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/11 "2005-11-03T09:05:15Z")
> [@Case Sensitive](#): > > who has the coolest? The toughest? The spikiest? Sauron in Peter Jackson’s _Fellowship_ prologue, in all 3 categories. > [@Case Sensitive](#): > > The most impractical? My vote now goes to that WoW axehead one, but it was going to be the Telvanni Guard beetle-heads from Morrowind. > [@Case Sensitive](#): > > The silliest? It’s a tossup between the Morrowind beetleheads and Jayne’s wooly hat.: “How does it sit?” ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/12 "2005-11-03T13:27:28Z")
You wanna see stupid hats? These are arguably more fantasy than SF, but they surely qualify in the bad-hat division – **Atlantis, the Lost Continent** – George Pal’s weird 1960 film. There’s a council of Atlantean elders near the end, and it looks like a goofy-hat competition. **Outlaw of Gor** – Jack Palance’s "Split-top Butter Spread hat has to be one of the weirdest hats ever. When they riffed on this on MST3K (Where the title was simply “Outlaw”, for some reason), they couldn’t stop talking about that hat. ---
**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/13 "2005-11-03T14:21:12Z")
Just about anyone from the old black and white serial, The Undersea Kingdom. [Just](http://www.cinefania.com/pics/personas/7/7448.jpg) [a](http://www.art-posters.net/posters/newart/mm4862.jpg) [taste.](http://davidszondy.com/future/robot/undersea.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/14 "2005-11-03T15:10:46Z")
> [@Case Sensitive](#): > > Oh, hats, helmets, skullcaps, cowls, hoods - they’re all good. Yes, but they’re not shirts, so that part was a digression. I can_not_ find a good shot of either Mento or Mordru online. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/15 "2005-11-03T15:20:41Z")
“You just watch yourself. I’ve got a tall, pointy hat! _Status,_ boy!” ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/16 "2005-11-03T15:54:28Z")
**Tengu** , here ya go. Not the BEST, but good enough? [Mordru](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mordru.jpg) Sorry, couldn’t find Mento. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/17 "2005-11-03T16:03:06Z")
The thing I enjoyed most in the SciFi Channel remake of _Dune_ was the delightfully goofy and bizarre hats the women (especially Princess Irulan) wore. ---
**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/18 "2005-11-03T16:22:10Z")
> [@Love Rhombus](#): > > **Tengu** , here ya go. Not the BEST, but good enough? > > [Mordru](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mordru.jpg) > > Sorry, couldn’t find Mento. I’m fond of this [this one](http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/rob_63/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/mordru.jpg) from [here.](http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/rob_63/id10.html)😃 ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/19 "2005-11-03T16:24:26Z")
Iz a _gut_ hat. Silly hats galore at [www.girlgeniusonline.com](http://www.girlgeniusonline.com) , but that’s Phil Foglio’s sense of humor. Still, look at 'em. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230/20 "2005-11-03T16:29:37Z")
Here’s a copy of the VHS box. You can see Jack Palance’s hat in one corner. [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/outlaw\_of\_gor/](http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/outlaw_of_gor/) Here’s a whole pages devoted to the silly hats of Gor. No pix, though: [http://www.bondagerotica.com/articlesnopix/gormoviereview.html](http://www.bondagerotica.com/articlesnopix/gormoviereview.html) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-did-you-get-that-hat-alarming-sf-fantasy-headgear/329230.md?page=2)