# Where do evil Jedis go when they die?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 26, 2006, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229 "2006-04-26T00:53:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/21 "2006-04-26T13:50:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]  
Two Words–New Jersey.  
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Yabbut, which exit?

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/22 "2006-04-26T14:02:07Z")

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[QUOTE=UncleRojelio]  
Yabbut, which exit?  
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[del]All exits.  
New Jersey is where New York used to go to bury it’s garbage.  
Now, it’s off-limits for garbage.  
So New York doesn’t go there anymore.[/del]

Why, New Jersey is a place of Sunshine, Lollipops & Ponies!  
I couldn’t imagine _why_ you’d think you’d find Evil Dead Jedis _there_!  
Only Evil Dead Mob Stoolies.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/23 "2006-04-26T14:05:44Z")

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[QUOTE=C K Dexter Haven]

(b) it was a “new” phenomenon that happened first with Qui-Gon. Remember that Palpatine Emperor was luring young (idiot) Darth with the notion that the Force can provide “immortality” but no one knows how to do it? I thought that was the “ghost” bit, but Palp was distorting it (or misunderstood it.)  
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On a related note, when Palpatine was giving the speech to Anakin about Darth Whathishame who could create life but was then killed by his apprentice…do we know that Palpatine was that apprentice, or is it just that Palpatine makes it seem so? Do we have any official confirmation or anything?

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/24 "2006-04-26T14:40:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Mr. Blue Sky]  
Is there a Jedi hell?  
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Yes – the damned are forced to watch a looped recording of the _Star Wars Holiday Special_ for all eternity…

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/25 "2006-04-26T15:43:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
On a related note, when Palpatine was giving the speech to Anakin about Darth Whathishame who could create life but was then killed by his apprentice…do we know that Palpatine was that apprentice, or is it just that Palpatine makes it seem so? Do we have any official confirmation or anything?

-Joe  
[/QUOTE]

Well, the look of pride and satisfaction on his face are a pretty strong indication.

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/26 "2006-04-26T17:07:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]

Only Evil Dead Mob Stoolies.  
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Is that the movie where Bruce Campbell was killing zombie gangsters?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/27 "2006-04-26T17:20:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Trunk]  
They are reincarnated as Jawas.

I believe that’s canon.  
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Ww- wait. I’m starting to think you and **Dooku** aren’t kidding.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/28 "2006-04-26T17:34:21Z")

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[QUOTE=HPL]  
Is that the movie where Bruce Campbell was killing zombie gangsters?  
[/QUOTE]

No-no-no.

Silly **HPL**! 😃  
That the movie where Shirley Temple was killing zombie gangsters.

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**Author:** ![Scupper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Scupper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scupper)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/29 "2006-04-26T17:35:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Steve MB]  
the damned are forced to watch a looped recording of the _Star Wars Holiday Special_ for all eternity…  
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Satan, take note: After having recently attempted to watch this on the net for its kitchy humorous awfulness, I can honestly say that I can think of few things of the “forced to watch it for eternity” that would be worse than the _Star Wars Holiday Special_.

Seriously. It’s easily the worst thing I have ever seen that did not involve fatalities.

I don’t know how I watched this as a child and did not become a very screwed up adult.

Oh, wait … damn.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/30 "2006-04-26T18:08:40Z")

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[QUOTE=devilsknew]  
I think you need to rethink your understanding of The Force. It is one, and as a whole consists of _both_ the “dark” the “light” side of the force, respective. It is really a subtle dualistic religion comparable to the Tao (Tao Te Ching). It is the long and the short; Insupportable as a single good or bad always coming to ebb and cycling. Arising and falling away. The eternal dance.  
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This and what **Smapti** said has me thinking a more cogent thought continuing something I sort of ‘felt’ from the movies. It goes a little something like this:

The Dark Side is not EVIL. It does require a more focused approach tho, to keep from letting its seemingly easier to acquire powers from corrupting a person. So, a strong person could use it instead of merely becoming a tool of a debased person. Is there anyone here familiar enough with any writings about past Sith who can comment on this idea?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/31 "2006-04-26T18:10:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Mahaloth]  
Well, the look of pride and satisfaction on his face are a pretty strong indication.  
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Pretty much the entire reason for my supposition. Nice to know I’m not the only one.

-JOe

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/32 "2006-04-26T18:41:42Z")

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To answer the OP - “Is there a Jedi hell?” - Yes, I as a non-fan was in Jedi Hell last year when the bookstore where I work was innundated with Star Wars stuff.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/33 "2006-04-26T18:59:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
Pretty much the entire reason for my supposition. Nice to know I’m not the only one.  
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You’re definitely not. I was surprised when I started reading the Sith threads around here and found not everybody took it that way. That was probably my favorite scene in the movie, silly as the opera-thingy was.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/34 "2006-04-26T20:24:13Z")

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**Where do evil Jedis go when they die?**

Cleveland, land of Cleves.

\</SteveGerber\>

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/35 "2006-04-26T21:10:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Marley23]  
You’re definitely not. I was surprised when I started reading the Sith threads around here and found not everybody took it that way. That was probably my favorite scene in the movie, silly as the opera-thingy was.  
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First of all, it was Space Opera in a Space Opera - how can you not love the joke?

Second, I actually found it more appealing than a real opera. However, I kind of saw it is their version of Laser Floyd.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![priapus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@priapus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/priapus)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/36 "2006-04-26T21:28:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Zebra]  
I believe they all end up in the bottom of very deep shafts. Perhaps they lure boys named Timmy into wells.  
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GO Get Gramps,Lassie!

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/37 "2006-04-26T22:21:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Mr. Blue Sky]  
What about the nasty ones - Darth Maul, Count Dooku, Palpatine, etc?

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Maul- Idunno

Tyrannus- Mixing his ashes with the blood of a beautiful virgin and feeding the mixture to an evil man will cause the Count to rise again. Only a member of house Tarkin can permanently kill him.

Palpatine- AFAIK It’s canon that the Dark Side is so strong in Palpatine, it destroys his body on a regular basis. He transfers his mind into a prepared clone. IIRC at least one of the novels has Palpatine successfully transfering his mind to a clone after the destruction of the Death Star.

Darth Plagus- After a brief, private ceremony, Plagus body was cremated in accordance with his wishes. His will specified that his ashes be stirred, cremated again, and then seperated and ejected into many stars stretched over a vast stretch of the universe.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/38 "2006-04-26T22:48:51Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
Tyrannus- Mixing his ashes with the blood of a beautiful virgin and feeding the mixture to an evil man will cause the Count to rise again. Only a member of house Tarkin can permanently kill him.  
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[Stewie]  
Victory is mine!!  
[/Stewie]

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/39 "2006-04-27T00:13:31Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
Tyrannus- Mixing his ashes with the blood of a beautiful virgin and feeding the mixture to an evil man will cause the Count to rise again. Only a member of house Tarkin can permanently kill him.  
[/QUOTE]  
Quite a worrisome prospect, as Tyrannus returned at least once after Tarkin’s death, during the never-released-but-nonetheless-entirely-and-irrevocably-canonical [Empire Strikes Back Holiday Special](http://stomptokyo.com/movies/v/very-star-wars-xmas.html). Fortunately, Tyrannus’ mustache seems to hint that he was planning to abandon his Sith Lord identity in favor of a lucrative new career as a Galactic porn star. No doubt he succeeded in this endeavor; as anyone can plainly see, the man has an enormous helmet.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-evil-jedis-go-when-they-die/354229/40 "2006-04-27T00:14:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Dooku]  
If I knew then what I know now…[sigh](http://www.sith.nl/multimedia/characters/ewoks/starwarsimages228571.jpg).  
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Doesn’t seem you got any credit for this, and it really was quite funny.

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