# WHERE do I ever "Treath" someone???

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 1, 2004, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710 "2004-04-01T12:02:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/21 "2004-04-01T12:49:38Z")

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Grey,\*

Ah… You mean the hysterical reaction of dear Mehitable on a joke.  
Well, I explained it to her once more on an other thread, if I recall well on this forum. You should follow up those things a little better.

Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/22 "2004-04-01T12:50:06Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> Lola,  
> Actually they are hidden in my basements and secret caves, together with OBL and some ragin Taliban with rusty kalashnikovs.  
> I had Saddam there for a while, but he insisted to go for a walk… You see how it ends when people leave my protective care 🙂
> 
> Salaam. A

Who’s joking? That was a sufficiently nasty turn of phrase that several posters called you on it. You never clarified or retracted it.

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/23 "2004-04-01T12:51:27Z")

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Ilsa, what is it that you misunderstand in that popst?

I know my English is not always clear, but to me that is clearly saying:

I wouldn’t even bother to take any action be against any anonymous poster on a message board. Let be that I would invest money and effort in such an action.

Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/24 "2004-04-01T12:52:46Z")

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Grey,

Yes I did clarify it and no, there was no need at all to “retract” anything since there was nothing there to “rectract”.

Like I said: you should follow up things if you have comments on them.

Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/25 "2004-04-01T12:54:13Z")

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Grey,

If you take the joke you just quoted as “serious” then I must suggest you to get some reading glasses and maybe a drink to become sober.  
Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/26 "2004-04-01T13:01:38Z")

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I’m simply saying that whatever this particular “threat” the mods are reviewing it’s not your first. I’m not evening trying to remember all the asinine things you say to other posters and I can pull up 2-3 questionable “jokes”. The blood cover sword was just the most recent that I know of.

They’re not very good jokes by the way. They’re not even clever word games.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/27 "2004-04-01T13:02:08Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> Yes I know that you can “trace” people. Yet if I want to do that, I’m not going to tell it. I just let it be done. So far nobody on any message board can get me to be that interested in his/her identity though.  
> Let be that I shall try to buy some “nuke” even a tiny little one, to drop it at his/her place.
> 
> By the way: For those who are out to “find” me, give it a go and play a bit. Be prepared for a huge disappointment thohjgh.You can trace all you want, you shall never end with tracing me. So sorry.

This is getting a bit out of hand (surprise surprise). **Aldebaran** , I think that you probably mean well, but it’s not a good idea to suggest that you know how to find people, but that they can’t find you.

> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> Ilsa, what is it that you misunderstand in that popst?
> 
> I know my English is not always clear, but to me that is clearly saying:
> 
> I wouldn’t even bother to take any action be against any anonymous poster on a message board. Let be that I would invest money and effort in such an action.
> 
> Salaam. A

The first time you used the words “let be”, it was in a context where “let alone” was the obvious translation from **Alde** -speak into English. This latest effort, however, could also be interpreted as “let it be understood”.

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/28 "2004-04-01T13:05:32Z")

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Grey,

Let me help you a bit.

Look here:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4651978#post4651978](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4651978#post4651978)

Post #87.  
Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/29 "2004-04-01T13:13:22Z")

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> [@](#):
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> SentientMeat are you telling me that if you were the OP or dogface you would have felt personally threatened by that post?

Gosh, no. However, I think that a good example would be set if even subtle or sarcastic implications of “consequences” were viewed with zero tolerance, and so I might have asked the Mods to tell him to knock it off.

Just advice from a friend, **Alde** , since I value your input here. _Be careful_.

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/30 "2004-04-01T13:15:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Desmostylus]  
This is getting a bit out of hand (surprise surprise). **Aldebaran** , I think that you probably mean well, but it’s not a good idea to suggest that you know how to find people, but that they can’t find you.  
[/QUOTE°

Well, I’m always ready to help people. Here I’m preventing them to get disappointments 🙂

> [@](#):
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> The first time you used the words “let be”, it was in a context where “let alone” was the obvious translation from **Alde** -speak into English. This latest effort, however, could also be interpreted as “let it be understood”.

Yes… Well, I should think that the members here would be used to the Aldebaran’s New English Dictionary Style by now.  
On the other hand: If people insist not to, I can’t do anything against that.

There are however members like you (and even Ilsa, who does not exactly considers me as “a friend” did this on this very thread) who ask me to clarify when something is not clear at first sight or who correct my sometimes weird use of the language. They do that without getting hostile and without hysterical screaming.

That courtesy is very much appreciated.

Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/31 "2004-04-01T13:21:15Z")

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Well you’ve missed my point, or I made it badly. Regardless you don’t apologize much better than you joke.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/32 "2004-04-01T13:23:34Z")

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> [@SentientMeat](#):
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> Gosh, no. However, I think that a good example would be set if even subtle or sarcastic implications of “consequences” were viewed with zero tolerance, and so I might have asked the Mods to tell him to knock it off.

You think that a policy of “zero tolerance” should be in place?

Zero Tolerance and Fighting Ignorance don’t really go hand in hand IMO.

He was warned about making “Making direct threats against other posters”. I see no real threat anywhere in that thread coming from him and it’s why I’m arguing.

As I said if they want to ban anyone they can but it’s this bending of reality that I’ve got a problem with.

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/33 "2004-04-01T13:32:11Z")

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Grey,

I didn’t “apologize” at all since there was nothing to “apologize” for.

I made it clear to that member that indeed there was nothing to “apologize” for, coming from my side.

She should apologize to me for her hysterical over-reaction (instigated by an other member, by the way. She didn’t react at all to that joke I made there until an other member made it “a threat” which ovbiously brought her to some ideas for exploiting something that isn’t even there) and for her bringing it even to an other forum and for her making it sound as if I am out to kill her.

If you don’t see that, that is not my fault.  
Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/34 "2004-04-01T13:33:31Z")

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While Aldebaran’s style and attitude could use some improvement, I do think that posting something to the effect of “if you attack my country expect me to fight back” cannot reasonably be construed as a threat. Maybe a promise but not a threat.

> [@](#):
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> Cet animal est très mechant,  
> Quand on l’attaque il se défend.  
> (La Ménagerie, Theodore P.K.)

This animal is very wicked, when attacked it will defend itself.

It seems to me defending you country when it is being attacked would be the honorable thing to do and not what I would probably do which is to run and hide.

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/35 "2004-04-01T13:39:34Z")

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Well, I have to leave now.

If we don’t meet eachother back on this message board:

Goodbye and may God bless you.  
It was a pleasure interacting with you all.

If this is the case I do want to ask that the moderator would close this threat since I wouldn’t be able to reply.  
Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/36 "2004-04-01T13:46:57Z")

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Make that “threat” into “thread”…

Or else people shall claim that even in my last post here I posted a “threat”.  
Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/37 "2004-04-01T13:49:42Z")

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See? That was actually clever. 😛

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/38 "2004-04-01T13:54:47Z")

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1. **Aldebaran** , if you need a clarification on what **Lynn** objected to, you could have just E-mailed her. I’m just sayin’.

2. The board has a policy, in effect for some time now, against one poster wishing death on another poster, even as a ‘joke’. There’s a sticky in this very forum; the first line reads something like: “wishing death on another poster is a no-no, even in the Pit”.

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/39 "2004-04-01T13:59:38Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> The board has a policy, in effect for some time now, against one poster wishing death on another poster, even as a ‘joke’. There’s a sticky in this very forum; the first line reads something like: “wishing death on another poster is a no-no, even in the Pit”.

Can you please explain to me where you find Aldebaran has “wished death on another poster”? Please explain how you arrive at your interpretation.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2004, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-ever-treath-someone/237710/40 "2004-04-01T14:03:22Z")

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And another martyr prepares to ride into the sunset on his fiery Arabian steed.

Not my call to make, but I didn’t perceive a “threat” by **Aldebaran** in the linked thread. Juvenile responses more suited to a playground squabble than an SDMB thread, yes…but not a threat.

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