# Where do I fit in? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 18, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881 "2009-08-18T20:25:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TheBaptiste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f6c823/32.png) [@TheBaptiste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheBaptiste)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/21 "2009-08-18T23:58:59Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > ‘Enjoy being with black people.’ I’m not exactly offended, but I can’t say I’ve heard it put that way before. What I am saying is some of the black people that I work with are straight ghetto, or at least proclaim to be and I still enjoy hanging out with them after hours…even if I do laugh inside sometimes at their very stereo typical words and actions. One guy told me I was “the coolest white mutha fucker he ever met” I was not exactly offended either but I had never heard that before 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/22 "2009-08-19T00:05:14Z")
> [@jcheckwood](#): > > Oh yes I think Sarah Palin is the bee’s knees. Oh, that clearly means you are a demon, and as such fit in to the legions of hell. What!? I was referring to the gratuitous use of “bee’s knees.” _shudder_ ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/23 "2009-08-19T04:05:01Z")
I hate Bee’s Knees. ---
**Author:** ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/24 "2009-08-19T04:20:04Z")
Politically harmless and useless. Try voting a split ticket in the next presidential election. Or better still, write in a Republican president and a Democrat VP. ---
**Author:** ![keturah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e95f7d/32.png) [@keturah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keturah)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/25 "2009-08-19T04:44:59Z")
> [@wierdaaron](#): > > Sarah Palin, on the other hand, I do hate now because I’m aware of practically everything she’s ever done and think she’s a dishonest, attention-seeking, harmful, despicable person. I dont hate her for her politics. > > /snip/ > > Unless Obama has eaten the head of a live baby, I cant think of any real reason to hate him I think that maybe your politics hold more influence than you realize. You certainly did not mean that Sarah Palin’s political aspirations make her despicable and worthy of your hate, but Barak Obama would literally have to commit infantcide to garner your hate, right? Really? ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/26 "2009-08-19T06:24:38Z")
> [@lavenderviolet](#): > > To me you do sound most like a libertarian. I have known pro-life libertarians before. There is an organization called [Libertarians for Life](http://l4l.org/library/). That or a libertarian leaning Republican like I am. Though we differ on the matter of meat (thumbs up), SUVs (thumbs down), Sarah Palin (the woman’s an idiot), and I don’t consider liking black or Hispanic people particularly political. ---
**Author:** ![AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/27 "2009-08-19T06:54:18Z")
> [@](#): > > I just don’t think they should have them. Don’t like them? Good. Don’t have them. It’s not YOUR choice. Yes it’s bad that we live in such a crappy inequal society that women feel the need to have them…but fix the social problems that are causing them to choose abortions rather then demonizing abortions! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/28 "2009-08-19T12:04:57Z")
> [@AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](#): > > Yes it’s bad that we live in such a crappy inequal society that women feel the need to have them…but fix the social problems that are causing them to choose abortions rather then demonizing abortions! It’s unrealistic to blame all abortions on social factors and inequality. ---
**Author:** ![TheBaptiste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f6c823/32.png) [@TheBaptiste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheBaptiste)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/29 "2009-08-19T12:23:52Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > It’s unrealistic to blame all abortions on social factors and inequality. 100% agree, condoms are free and so is birth control if you are poor. It not that damn hard to remember to take a pill each day, hell you can even skip a day. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/30 "2009-08-19T12:27:52Z")
> [@jcheckwood](#): > > 100% Condoms are free and so is birth control if you are poor. It not that damn hard to remember to take a pill each day, hell you can even skip a day. Meanwhile birth control education usually sucks, if it exists at all. We’ve had a million abortion debates and I don’t want to turn this thread into one because personally I don’t even disagree with **AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet** ’s basic point. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/31 "2009-08-19T12:29:19Z")
> [@keturah](#): > > I think that maybe your politics hold more influence than you realize. You certainly did not mean that Sarah Palin’s political aspirations make her despicable and worthy of your hate, but Barak Obama would literally have to commit infantcide to garner your hate, right? Really? I used to think they didn’t mean it literally either. Then we went thru a few elections on the SDMB. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/32 "2009-08-19T12:38:07Z")
> [@jcheckwood](#): > > I hate obama, I love America and guns, I do not go to church except Christmas eve and sometimes easter, I voted for McCain, I dispise big goverment and liberals , I love animals, I drive an SUV that gets 12mpg and I don’t eat flesh, eggs, or dairy, not even fish. > > Not sure what I am? “I dispise [sic] liberals.” No matter how many times I hear that, it just slays me. “Fuckin’ liberty and people who believe in it! They’re comin’ right for us! Get 'em!” You’re a conservative Republican, dude. Just because you don’t fit every last stereotype doesn’t make you something else. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/33 "2009-08-19T13:21:51Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > If we get invaded, the liberals will be cannon fodder, offering counseling and touchy feely horeshit to the invaders. That will buy time for us conservatives to grab our guns, form up and oust the invaders. Teamwork and stuff. Oh yeah, and the lib chicks will become camp followers after the war hits home and they realize the superior manly virtues of cons. Lib males will be drafted, and the holdouts placed in reeducation centers, where they’ll be counseled towards socially useful homosexuality (read: church music directors and Arabic linguists). After the Condition Red is rescinded, polygamy will be legalized for male veterans, and non-vets will lose the voting franchise. We’ll have reached the Final Solution to liberalism: not making it go away completely, but making it the ultrafeminized parlor pet of a right-wing patriarchy. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/34 "2009-08-19T13:29:23Z")
I’m in the right seat on I-80 thru Pennsylvania, and it gets boring out here. Think I can sell this as a dystopian novel? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/35 "2009-08-19T13:31:02Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > I think it was in Jon Stewart’s book “America” that it said that Americans hold wide ranges of opinions on a huge number of issues, so it’s incredibly lucky that each and every one of them can be divided into two camps - Republican or Democrat. I thought that was in Colbert’s book. It’s probably in both. > [@jcheckwood](#): > > What I am saying is some of the black people that I work with are straight ghetto, or at least proclaim to be and I still enjoy hanging out with them after hours…even if I do laugh inside sometimes at their very stereo typical words and actions. > > One guy told me I was “the coolest white mutha fucker he ever met” I was not exactly offended either but I had never heard that before 😉 Jesus Harold… ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/36 "2009-08-19T13:36:00Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > I thought that was in Colbert’s book. It’s probably in both. It’s definitely in _America the Book_. Colbert might have a similar joke but this is definitely more of a Stewart thing to say. Here’s the quote: > [@](#): > > Each party has a platform, a prix fixe menu of beliefs making up its worldview. The candidate can choose one of the two platforms, but remember - no substitutions. For example, do you support universal health care? Then you must also want a ban on assault weapons. Pro-limited government? Congratulations, you are also anti-abortion. > Luckily, all human opinion falls neatly into one of the two clearly defined camps. Thus, the two party system elegantly reflects the bichromatic rainbow that is American political thought. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/37 "2009-08-19T14:00:09Z")
Ah, I remember that now. I’m sure there’s a similar joke in Colbert’s book, or I’m making things up entirely. Speaking of which, I pulled out the Shadow Government poster from \*America \*and put it up in my bathroom. Makes dropping a deuce funny. So anyway, **jshecky** , how am I supposed to glean information about your political leanings from statements like “I love America”? Err, yes, what political affiliation does not? You have a friend who speaks Spanish? Who doesn’t? You don’t mind black people. Very good, but I’m having a hard time determining where you “fit in” from such ridiculous tidbits of information. ---
**Author:** ![cwthree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@cwthree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cwthree)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/38 "2009-08-19T15:06:03Z")
> [@jcheckwood](#): > > Ok fine you can add contraceptive failure as well, but I am not sure how honest people would be about it, pull and pray does not constitute a failure to me. You still haven’t answered the question. Why do you think abortion is OK in some circumstances, but not others? Your criteria (rape, incest, mother’s health, contraceptive failure) have nothing to do with the viability of the fetus, but they have everything to do with the circumstances of the pregnancy. Why is it important for a woman to be “honest” about why she got pregnant? I’m not trying to turn this thread into a discussion about abortion. However, you asked us to tell you where you fit in, and I’m trying to get a sense of how you make decisions. From what you’ve told us, it sounds like you tolerate abortion in cases where the woman shouldn’t be punished for something that wasn’t her fault (rape, “real” contraceptive failure, health problems) but you oppose it when she’s in some way at fault (failure to use contraception). If this is correct, I’d say you “fit in” the general category of jerks who don’t think very highly of women, and your political affiliation is irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/39 "2009-08-19T17:39:49Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > Oh yeah, and the lib chicks will become camp followers after the war hits home and they realize the superior manly virtues of cons. Lib males will be drafted, and the holdouts placed in reeducation centers, where they’ll be counseled towards socially useful homosexuality (read: church music directors and Arabic linguists). After the Condition Red is rescinded, polygamy will be legalized for male veterans, and non-vets will lose the voting franchise. We’ll have reached the Final Solution to liberalism: not making it go away completely, but making it the ultrafeminized parlor pet of a right-wing patriarchy. You say that like it would be a bad thing… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881/40 "2009-08-19T19:27:56Z")
I too don’t understand people who “despise liberals”. I’m a liberal, and I’m human, too, how can you despise another random human being? Do you really think I want to see this country brought to ruin? I want to live here, too, I just happen to disagree with you on some things. But I don’t hate conservatives. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-i-fit-in/506881.md?page=3)