# Where do you live - in history?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 6, 2007, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228 "2007-09-06T12:23:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Interrobang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/interrobang/32/17463_2.png) [@Interrobang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interrobang)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/21 "2007-09-06T21:12:30Z")

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One of the Duwamish villages (specifically the _Skak-TELB-sbabsh_, or Lake People).  
Rainier Valley, Oregon Territory.  
Rainier Valley, Washington Territory.  
Rainier Beach.  
Seattle.

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**Author:** ![jimmmy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/73ab20/32.png) [@jimmmy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimmmy)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/22 "2007-09-06T23:30:17Z")

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Ice Age Hunter gatherers  
Powhatan Confederacy  
Virginia Colony [Pieces of MD in Virginia Charter (disputed)]  
Maryland Lord Baltimore’s Colony [Proprietorial Rule]  
Puritan Rule (9 Years Catholics and Episcopalians outlawed)  
Reestablishment of Proprietorial rule  
Royal Colony of Maryland (Appointed Governor)  
Revolutionary Government of Maryland  
State of Maryland (USA Articles of Confederation)  
State of Maryland (USA under the Constitution)  
Occupied Maryland (briefly War of 1812)  
State of Maryland (USA)  
Occupied Maryland (briefly Civil War)  
State of Maryland (USA)

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**Author:** ![Strinka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strinka/32/512_2.png) [@Strinka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strinka)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/23 "2007-09-07T00:39:18Z")

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Various Native American tribes  
French territory  
British territory  
American territory  
Indiana

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/24 "2007-09-07T08:50:19Z")

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Paleo - Indian inhabited  
Muskogee / Yuchi inhabited  
Cherokee Territory  
British Territory  
North Carolina, USA  
Tennessee, USA  
Tennessee, CSA  
Tennessee, USA

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/25 "2007-09-07T09:37:59Z")

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Weckquasgeek (I love it. Native American geeks!)  
New Netherlands under the Dutch  
New York under the British / Sleepy Hollow, according to Washington Irving  
New York, U.S.A., Westchester County, Town of Greenburgh, Village of Irvington

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**Author:** ![VanillaGorilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@VanillaGorilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VanillaGorilla)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/26 "2007-09-07T10:54:10Z")

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I have no idea what this thread is about. “where do I live in history?” What do you mean? 😕

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**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/27 "2007-09-07T11:37:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Etumretniw]  
I have no idea what this thread is about. “where do I live in history?” What do you mean? 😕  
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Each nation will have undergone changes in name and rulers.

So although I now live in the UK, it’s not always been called “United Kingdom”. Someone living in London 2000 yrs ago would have been part of the Roman Empire, for example.

So for Stockholm you would look back and figure out the various distinct nations in which the people of Stockholm have found themselves.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/28 "2007-09-07T11:41:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Etumretniw]  
I have no idea what this thread is about. “where do I live in history?” What do you mean? 😕  
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Just think about your current location, then pretend to go back and then forward in the history of your location, mention the name of the countries, civilizations, or tribes that you notice on your trip.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/29 "2007-09-07T12:57:45Z")

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Oy.

Canaan  
Phoenicia  
Philistine holdings  
Egyptian Empire  
Israel  
Judea  
Assyrian Empire  
Chaldean (Neo-Babylonean) Empire  
Persian Empire  
Macedoniam Empire  
Ptolmeian Empire  
Seleucid Empire  
Hasmonean Kingdom of Israel  
Roman Empire  
Byzantine Empire  
Umayyad Caliphate  
Abbasid Caliphate  
Selejuk Empire  
The Frankish Kingdom of Jerusalem  
Egyptians (Mameluks)  
Various Mongols  
The Ottoman Empire  
The British Empire  
Israel

I may have missed a few.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/30 "2007-09-07T13:01:46Z")

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Fishing village  
Central Kingdom  
France  
International Concession  
Japan  
Republic of China  
People’s Republic of China

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/31 "2007-09-07T13:05:37Z")

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Ah yes, I forgot - Napoleon conquered the area in 1799 (and lost it a few months later). So add the French Empire.

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/32 "2007-09-07T13:42:42Z")

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[QUOTE=jimmmy]  
Ice Age Hunter gatherers  
Powhatan Confederacy  
Virginia Colony [Pieces of MD in Virginia Charter (disputed)]  
Maryland Lord Baltimore’s Colony [Proprietorial Rule]  
Puritan Rule (9 Years Catholics and Episcopalians outlawed)  
Reestablishment of Proprietorial rule  
Royal Colony of Maryland (Appointed Governor)  
Revolutionary Government of Maryland  
State of Maryland (USA Articles of Confederation)  
State of Maryland (USA under the Constitution)  
Occupied Maryland (briefly War of 1812)  
State of Maryland (USA)  
Occupied Maryland (briefly Civil War)  
State of Maryland (USA)  
[/QUOTE]  
Same here. Glad you did it, since I know nothing of the local history.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/33 "2007-09-07T13:56:21Z")

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Remebered another one: In 132 AD Simon Bar Kochva drove the Romans out and established an independant Jewish state, which lasted until basically the entire Roman army came down on their heads three years later.

So my revised list is as follows:

Canaan  
Phoenicia  
Philistine holdings  
Egyptian Empire  
Israel  
Judea  
Assyrian Empire  
Chaldean (Neo-Babylonean) Empire  
Persian Empire  
Macedoniam Empire  
Ptolmeian Empire  
Seleucid Empire  
Hasmonean Kingdom of Israel  
Roman Empire  
Israel (Bar Kochva Rebellion)  
Byzantine Empire  
Umayyad Caliphate  
Abbasid Caliphate  
Selejuk Empire  
The Frankish Kingdom of Jerusalem  
Egyptians (Mameluks)  
Various Mongols  
The Ottoman Empire  
The French Empire  
The British Empire (Mandatory Palestine)  
Israel

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/34 "2007-09-07T21:06:56Z")

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Even old New York was once New Amsterdam  
Why they changed it I can’t say  
People just liked it better that way

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/35 "2007-09-07T22:12:00Z")

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If I summarize the wikipedia article correctly:

Algonguin territory - “First Stopping Place”  
Iroquois village of Hochelaga  
Ville-Marie, Nouvelle France 1642-1760  
Ville-Marie, Province of Québec 1763-1791  
1775 - briefly held by American Revolutionists, who left when they determined they could not get hold of Canada  
Ville-Marie, Lower Canada, 1791-1841  
Montreal (1832), United Province of Canada (1841-1867)  
Montreal, Province of Québec, Dominion of Canada (1867- ) (Since the 1950s, the country has been simply called Canada)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/36 "2007-09-08T07:50:17Z")

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Apologies for my previous answer- I misunderstood the question. I live in:

-the Creek Confederacy  
-The Spanish New World  
-The French New World  
-The Creek Village of Econhate (eh-kon-hah-TAY)  
-The Colony of Georgia  
-The Georgia Territory  
-The State of Alabama  
-The frontier town of New Philadelphia  
-The site of one of the largest concentration camps in American history (1830s Creek removal depot)  
-Fourth (and current) Capitol of Alabama  
-First Capitol of the Confederate States of America  
-The City where Rosa Parks was arrested and MLK gained national prominence  
-Home of the New World’s best funded Shakespearean theater

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/37 "2007-09-08T11:53:25Z")

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**Sampiro** , I just thought you were being a wise-ass earlier. Heh.

I think **Alessan** is currently winning the thread. It’s neat to see the countries and empires we have in common, though. At several points in history, he and I would be living in the same nation.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-do-you-live-in-history/418228/38 "2007-09-08T19:27:37Z")

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Some four or five thousand years ago there were the Red Paint People, whose name for the area we don’t know.

Then came the Susquehana.

Then came the Algonquians, largely Abenaki in this area, who called this place Ndakinna.

In 1604, the area became part of New France, the colony of Acadia.

The English came in 1607, the Plymouth Company, and founded the Province of Maine.

The province was divided in 1629 into Province of New Hampshire and New Somersetshire.

Nothing ever came of New Somersetshire, however, and the more populated parts were given over to a new Province of Maine and the less to the Territory of Sagadahock.

In 1669, the whole thing was absorbed into the Province of New York.

Then we became part of the flash-in-the-pan Dominion of New England

In 1692, Province of Massachusetts Bay took over and our district was called Yorkshire.

Then there was the whole Seven Years War thing that went back and forth between the English and the French–who, as far as they were concerned, still called the place Acadia.

Between that and the Revolution, things get a bit hazy, but we were either part of Massachusetts, Nova Scotia, or some combination of the two.

The War of 1812 put us firmly in Massachusetts, the District of Maine.

In 1820, we gained independence through the Maine-Missouri Compromise.

In 1839, we lost a bit of land to New Brunswick in the bloodless Aroostook War.

And that brings us up to today.  
Or, if you want to simplify it, some Indians, some French, some British, a bit of back and forth, some Americans, then some British came back for round two and gave a chunk to the Canadians.

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