# Where does (did?) the conservative identification with light beer come from?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 17, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-does-did-the-conservative-identification-with-light-beer-come-from/984189 "2023-05-17T21:07:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Blindmellowjelly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindmellowjelly/32/13920_2.png) [@Blindmellowjelly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blindmellowjelly)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-does-did-the-conservative-identification-with-light-beer-come-from/984189/81 "2023-05-19T04:05:22Z")

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I used to like ted Nugent and Kid Rock, now I want to destroy them.

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**Author:** ![Blindmellowjelly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindmellowjelly/32/13920_2.png) [@Blindmellowjelly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blindmellowjelly)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-does-did-the-conservative-identification-with-light-beer-come-from/984189/82 "2023-05-19T06:15:50Z")

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It means i am an old Union democrat and socialist from way back, we always were woke and vigilante, standing against the graft and inequities and oligarchy of Capitalism. Organizing and street figh ing. A unified front against fascism. I fought the Nazis and the Soviet Union in my teens.

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**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-does-did-the-conservative-identification-with-light-beer-come-from/984189/83 "2023-05-19T13:20:31Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> The “grow” half of that is apparently that the climate in India doesn’t lend itself well to growing hops, and barley apparently doesn’t fare much better there, either.

And oddly as far as hops go, it’s not just a matter of climate, but also the latitude. Hops are considerably harder to grow in southern states due to the shorter day lengths, and India’s even worse in that sense.

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**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-does-did-the-conservative-identification-with-light-beer-come-from/984189/84 "2023-05-19T13:22:57Z")

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Ted Cruz is such a shit. And I’ve never seen anyone more shamelessly self-aggrandizing- he’ll try and spin _any_ issue for his benefit or his party’s benefit.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-does-did-the-conservative-identification-with-light-beer-come-from/984189/85 "2023-05-20T13:46:45Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> This is true of Lone Star beer. I grew up in the Midwest, but as a kid, whenever we went on a trip that happened to take us through Texas, my dad would always buy a case or two of Lone Star for him and his buddies.
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> Years later when I moved to Texas myself, I was surprised to discover that very few locals drank it, and many saw it as bargain barrel swill, the sort of stuff you might get for a buck a can at a dive college bar.

I grew up in Dallas. Right out of school I was frequently broke so me and my friends would drink Lone Star because it was so cheap. But it’s terrible, it taste like it has dirt in it.

But Texas pride, being what it is, kept the brand solvent. That, occasionally being mentioned in song:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/qNUSRcB2OnM/maxresdefault.jpg "Lone Star Beer and Bob Wills Music") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNUSRcB2OnM)

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-does-did-the-conservative-identification-with-light-beer-come-from/984189/86 "2023-05-20T18:03:50Z")

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Wife says Bud Light is on sale locally, about half the price of my default cooler-fill (Heineken). Wished I liked the stuff, but I really don’t (no politics involved).

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-does-did-the-conservative-identification-with-light-beer-come-from/984189/87 "2023-05-20T19:02:46Z")

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We’re also heading towards Memorial Day weekend in the USA . Big sales on popular macrobrews are common this time of year. This may or may not be the case here

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-does-did-the-conservative-identification-with-light-beer-come-from/984189/88 "2023-05-21T00:38:03Z")

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There was a real marketing campaign in the late 1970s/early 1980s about Lone Star, bringing it back to prominence.

[The Beer that Made Armadillos Famous | Michael Ennis (wordpress.com)](https://michaelbennis.wordpress.com/award-winning-non-fiction/business-writer/the-beer-that-made-armadillos-famous/)

And a _really_ interesting excerpt from that article might shed some light on this whole thread’s question re: identity.

> The beer that a person drinks is a very emotional thing,” says Barry Sullivan in his version of the classic response. “Beer is a very laid-back product. If your boss says, ‘Let’s go have a beer,’ you know it means something entirely different than if he says, ‘Let’s meet for drinks.’ It means a real expression of friendship instead of a formal occasion. So beer is associated with that kind of feeling. Beer is like a good friend that a guy holds up for the whole world to see.” Other beer men will say that that bottle or can of beer is a mirror that reflects the personality of the guy holding it, or that it is a mouthpiece for ineffable sentiments that the average drinker feels deeply but couldn’t even begin to articulate. No matter what the metaphor, one thing is clear: when a guy reaches for a six-pack, he wants 72 ounces of his own values and aspirations. _He picks his beer because he likes what his beer says about him._

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