# Where does the prefix cul- come from. Is it Latin?

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Where does the prefix cul- come from. Is it Latin? I couldn’t find it. I see it in the words ‘culminate’, ‘culpable’ ‘cul de sac’ etc. I believe I read somewhere that it can mean ‘adverse’. Not sure.

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cul in cul-de-sac means bottom as in bottom of the bag

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Culpable comes from the Latin “culpa,” meaning “blame” or “fault.” Might not be related to the other words.

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Culminate and culpable have different root words. The former is “culmen,” meaning “peak.” kenobi pointed out the latter.

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> cul in cul-de-sac means bottom as in bottom of the bag

And tail/ass. So in French there’s “lèche-cul”, which basically means “ass licker”.

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And [L.H.O.O.Q.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.H.O.O.Q.) = _Elle a chaud au cul_ (“she’s got a hot ass”).

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> Where does the prefix cul- come from. Is it Latin?

Ummm, it’s not a prefix.

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> cul in cul-de-sac means bottom as in bottom of the bag

> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Culminate and culpable have different root words. The former is “culmen,” meaning “peak.” kenobi pointed out the latter.

Trying to suss out English from syllables is a hopeless task when the same three letters can come from “bottom” and “peak”.

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[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cul#French](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cul#French)

> Etymology

From [Middle French](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_French) _[cul](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cul#Middle_French)_, from [Old French](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_French), from [Latin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) _[cūlus](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/culus#Latin)_, from [Proto-Indo-European](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language) _[\*kuH-l-](https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/kuH-l-&action=edit&redlink=1)_, [zero-grade](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#zero-grade) without [s-mobile](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#s-mobile) form of _[\*(s)kewH-](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/(s)kewH-)_ (“to cover”).

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Thanks gnoitall. So it does have a Latin root!

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> [@Octagon](#):
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> So it does have a Latin root!

Well, yes, but the various “cul” words you asked about all come from _ **different** _ Latin root words.

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> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> And [L.H.O.O.Q.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.H.O.O.Q.) = _Elle a chaud au cul_ (“she’s got a hot ass”).

More accurately : “she’s horny.”

Some profanities following:

(+/- “She’s got heat in her ass”)

In French naughty bits are not associated with hotness but with “goodness” : she’s got a hot ass = _Il est bon, son cul_ (literally “It is good, her ass”).

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> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> And [L.H.O.O.Q.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.H.O.O.Q.) = _Elle a chaud au cul_ (“she’s got a hot ass”).

I am not a mod. Still, this is going in a bad direction.

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See also [Oh Cacutta !](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh!_Calcutta!)  
(A British musical)

> The title is taken from a painting by Clovis Trouille, itself a pun on "_O quel cul t’as!_ ", French for “Oh, what an arse you have!”

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In the UK (and presumably also in the US) dead-end roads are sometimes used to signed as “_cul de sac_”. In France, they call a dead end road a _“voie sans issue”_.

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> [@bob\_2](#):
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> In the UK (and presumably also in the US) dead-end roads are sometimes used to signed as “_cul de sac_”.

Cul-de-sac is definitely a common term in the U.S., though it typically refers to a specific kind of dead-end road: one with an enlarged circular end, to make turning around easier.

Example:

[![](https://cdn.coloradoparent.com/2019/02/CSG1902_YourTurn_CulDeSac-960x720.jpg) ](https://cdn.coloradoparent.com/2019/02/CSG1902_YourTurn_CulDeSac-960x720.jpg)

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Cul-de-sac is definitely a common term in the U.S., though it typically refers to a specific kind of dead-end road: one with an enlarged circular end, to make turning around easier.

On old city maps you sometimes see dead-end alleys labeled “Sack Alley”. When I say “old” I’m thinking of Baist Real Estate Survey or Sanborn Fire Insurance maps from at least a century ago.
