# Where has all the spelling gone? Long time passing.... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 19, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614 "2005-05-19T18:46:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/81 "2005-05-20T18:22:50Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > You mean either “etc” or “&c” or “&/c,” but not “&etc,” unless you’re saying “and and so forth.” Wonderful. Now the _symbol_ nazis are here. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/82 "2005-05-20T18:27:25Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > Wonderful. Now the _symbol_ nazis are here. > > 😛 This thread is being godwinized to death. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/83 "2005-05-20T18:39:13Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > Eyevrnoe can udenrsatnd waht you are syanig as lnog as the fsirt and lsat letetr > in the wrod rmeian in the smae sopt, so waht is the piont? > [@](#): > > Iltnsegnetiry I’m sdutynig tihs crsrootaivnel pnoheenmon at the Dptmnearet of Liuniigctss at Absytrytewh Uivsreitny and my exartrnairdoy doisiervecs waleoetderhlhy cndairotct the picsbeliud fdnngiis rrgdinaeg the rtlvaeie dfuictlify of ialtnstny ttalrisanng sentences. My rsceeerhars deplveeod a cnionevent ctnoiaptorn at hnasoa/tw.nartswdbvweos/utrtek: p./il taht dosnatterems that the hhpsteyios uuiqelny wrtaarns criieltidby if the aoussmpitn that the prreoecandpne of your wrods is not eendetxd is uueniqtolnabse. Aoilegpos for aidnoptg a cdocianorttry vwpiienot but, ttoheliacrley spkeaing, lgitehnneng the words can mnartafucue an iocnuurgons samenttet that is vlrtiauly isbpilechmoenrne. > > Or, if you prefer: > > Interestingly I’m studying this controversial phenomenon at the Department of Linguistics at Aberystwyth University and my extraordinary discoveries wholeheartedly contradict the publicised findings regarding the relative difficulty of instantly translating sentences. My researchers developed a convenient contraption at [http://www.aardvarkbusiness.net/tool](http://www.aardvarkbusiness.net/tool) that demonstrates that the hypothesis uniquely warrants credibility if the assumption that the preponderance of your words is not extended is unquestionable. Apologies for adopting a contradictory viewpoint but, theoretically speaking, lengthening the words can manufacture an incongruous statement that is virtually incomprehensible. [http://www.bisso.com/ujg\_archives/000227.html](http://www.bisso.com/ujg_archives/000227.html) > **[Letter Order Unimportant](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/can-you-raed-tihs/)** > > University researchers demonstrate that letter order is unimportant to reading comprehension? ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/84 "2005-05-20T18:41:17Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > My spelling sucks. > > My grammer sucks. > > but > > My spelling and my grammer suck. Wierd…correct but wierd. Ha! A correction of a correction in a spelling thread, and the spelling mistakes multiply! (Or are we being whooshed here?) It’s “gramm **a** r” and “w **ei** rd”. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/85 "2005-05-20T18:46:29Z")
> [@Giles](#): > > Ha! A correction of a correction in a spelling thread, and the spelling mistakes multiply! (Or are we being whooshed here?) > > It’s “gramm **a** r” and “w **ei** rd”. Its Gaderes low. ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/86 "2005-05-20T18:49:33Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Split infinitives are okay these days. Actually, they’ve always been more grammar voodoo nonsense than anything. Yes, I know, and even Fowler, and Partridge, way back in nineteen-canteen, said that a determination to avoiding splitting infinitives would often lead to clumsier constructions than would otherwise be the case, but it’s rotten of you to deny me my little bit of fun, dammit! ☹ All righty, how about if I leave the split infinitives to look after themselves, but I take up splitting hairs? Or even hares. AH, but then PETA would get me. :eek: May I splits HARAs? Just for fun? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/87 "2005-05-20T18:58:12Z")
> [@Celyn](#): > > May I splits HARAs? Just for fun? 🙂 No, but you can SPLIT them. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/88 "2005-05-20T19:04:06Z")
Hahaha - Shit, I just _knew_ that Gaudere’s Law would catch up with me. :smack: 😃 \ ---
**Author:** ![fortytwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f9ae1b/32.png) [@fortytwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fortytwo)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/89 "2005-05-20T19:11:13Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > Eyevrnoe can udenrsatnd waht you are syanig as lnog as the fsirt and lsat letetr > in the wrod rmeian in the smae sopt, so waht is the piont? Uh? ---
**Author:** ![fortytwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f9ae1b/32.png) [@fortytwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fortytwo)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/90 "2005-05-20T19:15:10Z")
> [@Vetch](#): > > Uh? Please ignore that. I didn’t realise there was another page of posts. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/91 "2005-05-20T19:16:25Z")
> [@Celyn](#): > > \ Post jucundam juventutem Post molestam senectutem Nos habebit humus Nos habebit humus Why such exhistential nihilism, are we not having fun? \ ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/92 "2005-05-20T19:27:39Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > Post jucundam juventutem > Post molestam senectutem > Nos habebit humus > Nos habebit humus > > Why such exhistential nihilism, are we not having fun? > > \ Just word assoication - **Gaudere** ’s name sent me back, time-warpily, and tardis-like, to university and my keyboard was just thinking out loud. Be fair, though, I did stop before the miserable bit. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/93 "2005-05-20T19:31:00Z")
> [@Celyn](#): > > Just word assoication - **Gaudere** ’s name sent me back, time-warpily, and tardis-like, to university and my keyboard was just thinking out loud. > > Be fair, though, I did stop before the miserable bit. 🙂 I think there is an E in warpily. Does your keyboard often think out loud? What does it think? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/94 "2005-05-20T19:37:39Z")
It thinks of words it wot not of, “warpily” being a case in point. Look, I bet I invented it, so I can spell it! Bah! So, how long before someone turns up with proof of “warpily”, with or without an “e”, having been used since 1350 ish, and being ultimately derived from Sanskrit or similar? If it turns out to be a real word, then at least that’s a bit of ignorance fought. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/95 "2005-05-20T19:44:10Z")
Well, I must be an A-RA myself, because I can’t help discounting the speaker a tad for each spelling, and especially grammatical error s/he makes. Obviously typos don’t bother me as much - they’re the product of fast fingers and a mind that sees what it expects when proof-reading. But spelling, and more particularly grammar and punctuation errors suggest a lack of reading (or ability to learn from what you read). This is not necessarily the case, but it’s what is suggested. This obviously does not apply to people whose first language is not English - they get extra points for communicating at all in a second language! But forget about L33T speak - I don’t even try to figure it out. The people who have developed it clearly have gone out of their way to exclude writers/readers of simple English, so why barge in on their party? **Celyn** and **askeptic** , after driving me to the Latin-English dictionary (my Latin days ended 30 years ago and I wasn’t any good then), you leave me with only: Dum vivimus, vivamus! ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/96 "2005-05-20T19:55:04Z")
> [@Oy!](#): > > Dum vivimus, vivamus! Actually that should be “_ **d** um vivimus, vivamus_” ---
**Author:** ![Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Licentious_Ectomorph)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/97 "2005-05-20T20:05:10Z")
> [@Misnomer](#): > > You learn something new “every day.” “Everyday” is an adjective. 🙂 **THANK YOU!** You are my new best friend! 😃 It astonishes me how many people don’t seem to know that. It’s especially irksome when I see it in advertising. ---
**Author:** ![Faruiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@Faruiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Faruiza)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/98 "2005-05-20T20:40:46Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Badly. Nooooo. Unless I’ve been mistaken all these years, which is always totally possible, the thing that keeps me from saying, “badly” is the opposites rule. You would never say, “goodly”. Actually, if you did, I would point and laugh and call you a geek for using renspeak. 😉 Little help here? Please? ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/99 "2005-05-20T20:47:05Z")
> [@Faruiza](#): > > Nooooo. Unless I’ve been mistaken all these years, which is always totally possible, the thing that keeps me from saying, “badly” is the opposites rule. You would never say, “goodly”. Actually, if you did, I would point and laugh and call you a geek for using renspeak. 😉 > > Little help here? Please? What is renspeak? ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614/100 "2005-05-20T20:48:52Z")
Oops - Now I have learned what renspeak be. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-has-all-the-spelling-gone-long-time-passing/304614.md?page=6)