# Where in the U.S. is "come with." used?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [January 10, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-in-the-u-s-is-come-with-used/524395 "2010-01-10T15:51:38Z")\
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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> I can vouch that it’s quite common in Chicago…TRM

Same here. I grew up in the Chicago burbs. My East Coast wife always makes fun of me for it.

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Grew up in Minnesota, and it doesn’t sound strange to me, but instead of  
“Are you going to come with?”  
I’m more likely to say “Are you coming with?”

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Isn’t it possible the usage originated in the UK? It’s used in Yorkshire, I know that much.

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> Perfectly normal for me (Indianapolis). “The car needs to be washed” sounds like what a snooty English professor might say. Like when people never use contractions. Maybe I should pay more attention to movies/TV because I can’t remember what they tend to use.

I had no idea the “needs VERBed” construction extended all the way to Indy. I always thought it was a Western Pennsylvania/Eastern Ohio dialect feature. Interesting.

Anyhow, “needs washed” would sound very weird around here. I’ve since gotten used to the construction, but it still causes me pause. I very rarely, if ever, hear that construction on TV. The typical way to say your sentence would be “The car needs to be washed” or “The car needs a wash” or “The car needs washing.” (Although, the last sounds a little stilted to my ears, and the first would sound more like “Da car needstubby washed” around here.)

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-in-the-u-s-is-come-with-used/524395/45 "2010-01-11T17:33:23Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I had no idea the “needs VERBed” construction extended all the way to Indy. I always thought it was a Western Pennsylvania/Eastern Ohio dialect feature. Interesting.
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> Anyhow, “needs washed” would sound very weird around here. I’ve since gotten used to the construction, but it still causes me pause. I very rarely, if ever, hear that construction on TV. The typical way to say your sentence would be “The car needs to be washed” or “The car needs a wash” or “The car needs washing.” (Although, the last sounds a little stilted to my ears, and the first would sound more like “Da car needstubby washed” around here.)

We mapped this out a couple of months ago. It appears to have originated in Western Pennsylvania and to be a standard dialectal usage across much of Ohio and Indiana, with instances of its use in Iowa and California noted by various Dopers. There were also a couple of outliers in western New York and Ontario IIRC.

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The only time I ever hear “come with” in Atlanta is from northern transplants.

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My Mom was born in Germany and raised in upstate NY. Her speech contained a number of ‘Germanisms’ and ‘come with’ was certainly one of them. I picked it up also to some extent.

“A preposition is something you should never end a sentence with.”

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Is there any overlap with the regions that use “needs washed”? You could poetentially have sentence like, “My laundry needs washed; you want to come with?”

I grew up in Western PA, ground zero for the “needs” thing, which sounds OK to me. Informal, but OK. The “come with?” construction just sounds wrong, and haven’t noticed it being used anywhere I’ve lived.

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My answer was going to be “around 1995”. I also thought it was adolescent slang, but that was when I was in college, with a lot of people from Ohio, so maybe that’s where I heard it.

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I first heard it a few years ago on TV shows. I always thought it was some Hollywood/LA slang, but I guess not.

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I hear and use it in San Francisco.

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Very common in the Twin Cities in Minnesota.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-in-the-u-s-is-come-with-used/524395/53 "2010-01-13T20:27:44Z")

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I hear it relatively frequently here in PA.

It’s generally said by people who say things like “I’m going to Hawaii. Have you ever been?”. Actually, yes, I’ve \*\*\*been \*\*\*for over 36 years (depending on when you consider my existence to have started).

Sometimes if I hear somebody say, “Are you coming with?” or “Have you ever been?”, I’ll just stare at them blankly, waiting for them to finish their thought.

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In German you could ask ‘Kommst du mit?’ which means ‘Are you coming along?’  
or more literally, "You coming with?’

The German preposition ‘mit’ translates to the English ‘with.’

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It’s common in Minnesota, and goes back at least 55 years to my childhood–commonly a kid might ask a parent if a friend can “come with” on some outing, or equally commonly a parent might ask if a child’s friend wanted to “come with” on some outing. “Come along” was probably equally common, however–at least among parents. It’s certainly not a recent construction.

“Needs washed” is very, very uncommon in Minnesota, if used at all. I don’t remember ever hearing it in Minnesota, Virginia, or Wisconsin.

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> [@dangermom](#):
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> I could not say that the construction is taken from Scandinavian or German languages, but it certainly does make sense in Danish as well as German. You would say _Kommer du med?_ for _Are you coming with me?_ and so on.

And in Swedish.

> [@yelimS](#):
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> In Norwegian, we’d usually say either “Kommer du?” or “Blir du med (oss)?”. Keeping the syntax, they’d translate as “Coming you?” and “Becoming you with (us)?”.

Sorry, but the correct translations would be “Are you coming?” and “Will you stay (in our company)?”.

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I’m from Michigan and can’t remember ever hearing it outside of TV. It always sounds awkward to me. My grandmother was from Norway, grandpa from Pennsylvania, no one in our family says it.

ETA: We either say “Are you coming?”, or “Are you coming with me?”

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My girlfriends husband is Swedish and they use it often. It irks me to no end. I don’t know if I should go WITH him or WITH her or WITH both of them.

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> [@beatlejuice](#):
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> My girlfriends husband is Swedish and they use it often.

I hope by “girlfriend” you’re just referring to a female friend. Otherwise her husband is very tolerant (or lucky if you’re also female).

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> [@groman](#):
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> I live in California, and I _use_ it, and I never thought of it as a regionalism or in any way peculiar. I think it’s just an extension of how “tag along” is used to a different verb.
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> Now I’m curious if other people around me use it or if I picked it up from television.

I can’t recall hearing it often in the Bay Area, including San Jose, not often enough to think it wasn’t imported with the person.

Because while you may live in San Jose, you are not _from_ San Jose, right?

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