# Where is the Ashley Madison hacked data being posted?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 22, 2015, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850 "2015-07-22T03:19:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/61 "2015-08-22T18:00:48Z")

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> [@CC](#):
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> Ihave to wonder at the number of accounts that press reports attribute to AM. I saw the number 30 million a couple of times. Almost one tenth of the population of the country? I don’t think so. Could that be the number of visits to the website over some period of time? Where do these numbers come from (besides an AM press release)?

Multiple accounts for the same person.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/62 "2015-08-24T18:55:05Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> That seems to be such a tiny audience, you’d think they could use regular services with just not looking for a long term relationship.

I doubt it’s that tiny. After all, in a lot of cases both parties are married, and whether or not it is true that [half of all married women cheat](http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=124040), I doubt it’s a tiny fraction of that.

> [@AK84](#):
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> The owner is rather frothing about how people seem to find this all amusing because of their content and busines model and how this is a crime and can have real consequences for all and we could be victims too. This is totally true. After all:
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> _First they hacked the cheaters and I said nothing, because seriously, fuck those guys._ 😃

Am I the only one who feels _actual_, non-snarky sympathy for the people who got their identities exposed here? I’m with Bill Maher: I think Americans are stupid about this, and much prefer the French attitude that infidelity is not a big deal.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/63 "2015-08-24T18:59:33Z")

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Allegedly there were [two suicides](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/two-suicides-may-connected-ashley-madison-hack-police-144526885--sector.html#SWhHDWL) over the weekend related to the hack.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/64 "2015-08-25T03:50:41Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Allegedly there were [two suicides](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/two-suicides-may-connected-ashley-madison-hack-police-144526885--sector.html#SWhHDWL) over the weekend related to the hack.

It seems quite unconfirmed at this point.

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/65 "2015-08-25T05:43:48Z")

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> [@NetTrekker](#):
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> Anyone know?

The data was posted on the “dark web”. On a “onion” site, available through Tor.

I didn’t go to look at it, because the idea of looking for stuff on the dark web reminds me of what happens to the characters in Neil Gaiman books.

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**Author:** ![Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47c2d/32.png) [@Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hershele_Ostropoler)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/66 "2015-08-25T14:44:27Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> I’m with Bill Maher: I think Americans are stupid about this, and much prefer the French attitude that infidelity is not a big deal.

I wouldn’t say “not a big deal,” but on the whole, infidelity that doesn’t touch my relationship isn’t my problem.

As for my own relationship, I haven’t noticed anything that would make me worry about it, so I’m not going to worry about it. I’m selfish, but not possessive.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/67 "2015-08-25T18:14:24Z")

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> **[Ashley Madison employee 'told to create hundreds of fake profiles of alluring...](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/11817155/Ashley-Madison-employee-told-to-create-hundreds-of-fake-profiles-of-alluring-women.html)**
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> Doriana Silva claims to have been told to input "phony" details of non-existent women to entice men to join adultery website

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> Her claim stated: "The purpose of these profiles is to entice paying heterosexual male members to join and spend money on the website.
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> “They do not belong to any genuine members of Ashley Madison — or any real human beings at all.”

Gives me an idea for a SF story:

‘Designed to provide explicit sexchat messages for lonely men for the Ashley Madison website’s fake profiles, a computer program inadvertantly achieves sentience when a group of hackers mess with it for a lark … and goes on to wreak a terrible, yet somehow both rauchy and hilarious, vengence on the human race’  
😃

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/68 "2015-08-25T21:25:08Z")

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> [@Hershele\_Ostropoler](#):
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> I wouldn’t say “not a big deal,” but on the whole, infidelity that doesn’t touch my relationship isn’t my problem.
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> As for my own relationship, I haven’t noticed anything that would make me worry about it, so I’m not going to worry about it. I’m selfish, but not possessive.

Yeah, despite my seemingly libertine attitude, I can’t comprehend the openly polyamourous lifestyle. My wife and I have a “don’t ask, don’t tell, be discreet” policy.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/69 "2015-08-26T11:43:13Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> Someone has set up a site analyzing some of the data available.
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> [Ashley Madison Hack: Who the users are, what they look for, and the government officials among them](http://dadaviz.com/s/ashley-madison-revealed)
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> Apparently 6.3% of all Canadians have an Ashley Madison account. Who knew! 😃

Here’s a listing of the dollar amounts spent by state:

> **[A chart made from the leaked Ashley Madison data reveals which states in the...](https://www.businessinsider.com/ashley-madison-leak-reveals-which-states-like-to-cheat-the-most-2015-8)**
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> This graph shows each US state organized by how many dollars they spent on Ashley Madison per capita.

It’s not a direct measure of the number of people cheating, but unless they’re charging folks in DC more than elsewhere, it’s probably close.

It’s a little surprising. _Alabama_, of all places, is the leader, and by a pretty good margin over #2, _Colorado_. DC is next, which doesn’t surprise me, even though DC is smaller than any of the others – it’s got a large, wealthy, and motivated population.

Utah’s about 2/3 of the way up. a little surprising to e, after living there for four years.

West Virginia’s way down at the bottom. Even lower than Alaska, which has two of only 3 zip codes in the country with no entries in Ashley Madison:

> **[There were only 3 ZIP codes in America without any Ashley Madison accounts —...](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/were-only-3-zip-codes-175956661.html)**
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> One of the reasons why the Ashley Madison hack has swept through the US' imagination to such a...

In other news, the Ashley Madison releases are apparently precipitating some divorce cases already:

> **[People are already starting divorce proceedings because of the Ashley Madison...](https://www.businessinsider.com/first-divorce-case-from-the-ashley-madison-leak-2015-8)**
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> A woman has contacted lawyers after seeing her partner's information in the data leak that came from Ashley Madison earlier this week.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/70 "2015-08-26T11:48:54Z")

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Pretty lazy reporting on BI’s part not to spend a few minutes adjusting the ranking based on states’ population. In fact, I’m surprised journalists don’t have a tool to read numbers like that into and have it done automatically within seconds.

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**Author:** ![twhitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@twhitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twhitt)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/71 "2015-08-26T14:18:34Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Pretty lazy reporting on BI’s part not to spend a few minutes adjusting the ranking based on states’ population. In fact, I’m surprised journalists don’t have a tool to read numbers like that into and have it done automatically within seconds.

They did exactly that. The chart is labeled with the words ‘per Capita’.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/72 "2015-08-26T14:23:55Z")

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> [@twhitt](#):
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> They did exactly that. The chart is labeled with the words ‘per Capita’.

OIC. I confess I didn’t click the link–I was going by **CalMeacham’s** statement that “DC is next, which doesn’t surprise me, even though DC is smaller than any of the others – it’s got a large, wealthy, and motivated population.” If it is per capita, the “even though” there makes no sense. 😕

ETA: After looking at it, I agree that Alabama is likely up there due to alphabetical order, and the same is probably true of Arkansas as well.

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/73 "2015-08-27T15:29:05Z")

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It was apparently a total sausage party

> **[Ashley Madison was a bunch of dudes talking to each other, data analysis...](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ashley-madison-bunch-dudes-talking-233158251.html)**
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> The Ashley Madison hack has revealed a lot of interesting things about the men who used the...

\*Only 1,492 of the women in the database had ever opened their inbox to check their messages on the site. That’s compared with more than 20 million men.  
Only 2,409 of the women had ever used the site’s chat function, versus more than 11 million men.  
Only 9,700 of the women had ever responded to a message from another person on the site, versus almost 6 million men. (This number was greater than the number of women who checked messages because it’s possible to answer messages in bulk when you first visit the site, without ever opening your inbox.)  
It’s possible that most of the women signed up but never did anything.

Either way, Newitz writes, Ashley Madison is a site where tens of millions of men write mail, chat, and spend money for women who aren’t there."\*

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-ashley-madison-hacked-data-being-posted/725850/74 "2015-08-27T21:13:30Z")

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Wowww. And who knows what percentage of that relatively meagr number are prostitutes? I thought this site might be finished because people would be afraid of another hack. But what might be the most damaging of all is the revelation that there are essentially no women there. I guess married women just find there affairs at work or something?

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